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The Most Self-Indulgent Albums EVER!

Posted Mon Nov 24, 2008 11:54am PST by Shawn Amos in GetBack

We are in the midst of two album landmarks: the 40th anniversary of the self-titled Beatles double LP known as The White Album and the release of Guns N' Roses' 17-years-in-the-making Chinese Democracy. When someone suggested that perhaps the two-disc White Album was a bit self-indulgent and would have been tighter as a single disc, Paul McCartney famously replied, "It’s the bloody Beatles White Album. Shut up." 'Nuff said.

Chinese Democracy, however, is another story. Even though it's only one disc, it's about as self-indulgent as you can get: millions of dollars spent, hundreds of musicians used, and arrangements so dense that only Axl can understand them.

Self-indulgence is a rock rite of passage for many musicians. Every generation has a bunch of artists who decide to make an album (or two or three) that's nearly indecipherable to anyone except the band and their followers. These records have one or more of the following hallmarks:


1. Lyrics with lots of medieval words, such as tempest, screed, manor, shire, cloister, parchment, and pilgrimage.


2. Songs that run more than ten minutes on at least half the album.


3. Covers that look like a Harry Potter book or a Dungeons and Dragons game.


4. Packaging that includes two or three discs.


5. Tracks that feature at least one keyboard solo.


Beyond these characteristics, there's just the vibe of a self-indulgent album. It reeks of self-importance and humorlessness. There's no sense of irony, humility, or humanity. Ultimately lifeless, these projects feel more like musical dissertations than real rock ’n’ roll. The White Album is full of playfulness, humor, heart, and soul. The ones listed below? Not so much.


Here are the five most self-indulgent albums in recent memory. I'm refraining from hitting the easy targets, like ELP's Tarkus, Yes' Tales From Topographic Oceans, and the Moody Blues' Days of Future Passed. In fact, I'm avoiding all of the late-'60s/early '70s rock album output. Been there, done that. Here's the new self-indulgence.

 

Smashing Pumpkins
MACHINA/The Machines of God
Billy Corgan has made a career out of indulging himself musically. This album includes songs with titles like "The Crying Tree of Mercury" and such lyrics as "Into the flow of encrypted movement/Slapback kills the ancient remnants." As if this wasn't enough, Corgan followed up MACHINA with his first solo album, TheFutureEmbrace.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Styx
Kilroy Was Here
From the band that brought us The Grand Illusion and Paradise Theater comes this 1983 concept-album about robots replacing man. The centerpiece? "Mr. Roboto," a song almost too unintentionally funny to be self-indulgent. Almost.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dream Theater
Metropolis Pt. 2: Scenes From a Memory
Dream Theater has the perfect prog-rock pedigree: former students at Berklee College of Music, they spent their early years covering Iron Maiden and Rush tunes, and first named their band Majesty. Any of their albums is worthy of this list, but Scenes From a Memory contains nearly all of the self-indulgent hallmarks.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Queensrÿche
Operation: Mindcrime
Yeah, I know people put this album in the pantheon of Pink Floyd's The Wall and the Who's Tommy. I know it's a considered a metal masterpiece. Still, I'll take Racer X over Dr. X any day. Especially when he's played by Ronnie James Dio.
 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sting

Songs from the Labyrinth
Some would argue that Sting's entire life is an exercise in self-indulgence. This album of 17th-century lute music might prove them right.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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831 Comments

1. Chris the first -
I find it ironic that you mention the new Guns N' Roses album, but it doesn't have the five characteristcs that you list.

2. Alvin -
what does one expect. fans have been accepting of this type of musical genius as ooh the bomb and that' just what it is. get real fans/people are so miserable that mediocre is the norm. i mean how many non talented individuals get some smart money hungry exec. to back a venture with the non-talented individual/group only to make a buck. then people like me get to sound off oh well what's next. remember there are so many divas in music/entertainment. just because you say it is it don't make it so. my grandmother had an old saying a dog don't get mad cause you call it a dog. hey fanz/fans/consumers stop supporting the crap and i promise you it will go away at least it will go overseas.

3. Yahoo! Music User -
remember when each member of KISS released a solo album at the same time?

4. reality screws -
What if it's a good song like 'Bohemian Rhapsody?'

5. DUDE -
Can't have a self-indulgence list without Sting....

6. Donna S -
Why do the moderators allow postings like #4? This and similar ones are on all the comments pages and are pretty annoying. I think they should be banned.

7. John -
Dream Theater and Queensryche are solid bands, or at least put out solid material at some point. Any guitar virtuoso such as John Petrucci becomes a target fo rself-indulgence, just like Steve Vai, Joe Satriani and Jeff beck before him.

8. __A_YAHOO_USER__ -
I hate you, amos. dunno why.

9. T -
Self-indulgence from 'Rock Stars'
--Sssshhhh-ocker! Who knew!

or

Isn't that what we pay them for? (Otherwise, we'd only have Air Supply, Anthony Michael Hall [can you believe that recent one?] and Captain and Tenielle to listen to.)

I say, vote with your wallet/iTunes, and either buy/own them or not. The ultimate insult: you can rip music for free, and don't want to waste the space in your HD! Now that's cold!

BTW: comparing the genius and talents of
The Beatles, Sting, and Corgan's Pumpkins with Queensryche, GNR, and Styx--now that's the *ultimate [journalistic] self-indulgence-squared!*

10. Ananiah M -
Tusk by Fleetwood Mac. Almost unlistenable and purely self-indulgent! It defined self-indulgent rock records.

11. francine -
jethro tull never took itself seriously. thick as a brick was created as a mockery of actual self-indulgent albums. ian anderson is smarter than that.

12. drew.b -
floyd! ...pink floyd.and i love the beatles white album.that the devirsity record!..........love it!

13. Jane Doe -
Self indulgent is what I call this author's long look down his nose at other's work.

14. Jim W -
Everything Springsteen has done post-1975.

15. Han_m -
The Pumpkins are my favorite band and I think you missed the boat on choosing Machina.

Certainly you've heard Mellon Collie, right?

That was the height of Billy's self-indulgence.


...no, wait, forgot about Zeitgeist. Sorry.

16. jeremyw -
Well... I would have to say everything John Mayer has ever done. He can't get over himself. He has a team of sunshine blowers, who's soul purpose is to defy everything negative he might say about himself.

17. botchedlobotomy -
ANYTHING from Jethro Tull

18. Yahoo! Music User -
ahh...Sting. His arrogance and self-indulgence covers the world as if it were a chocolate-dipped apple. In my opinion, his redeeming act=being a part of The Police. The Police=brilliance. Nuff said. ^-^

19. mark -
This guy takes racer x over Dr X? I mean no disrespect (to each his own), but Operation Mindcrime is an absolute masterpiece in the prog world. Ask any Rush, Dream Theater, or Marillion fan and they will set you straight.

20. Joe -
I agree that Fleetwood Mac's "Tusk" is one of the most self-indulgent albums ever. It's not even a good album.
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