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The Most Self-Indulgent Albums EVER!

Posted Mon Nov 24, 2008 11:54am PST by Shawn Amos in GetBack

We are in the midst of two album landmarks: the 40th anniversary of the self-titled Beatles double LP known as The White Album and the release of Guns N' Roses' 17-years-in-the-making Chinese Democracy. When someone suggested that perhaps the two-disc White Album was a bit self-indulgent and would have been tighter as a single disc, Paul McCartney famously replied, "It’s the bloody Beatles White Album. Shut up." 'Nuff said.

Chinese Democracy, however, is another story. Even though it's only one disc, it's about as self-indulgent as you can get: millions of dollars spent, hundreds of musicians used, and arrangements so dense that only Axl can understand them.

Self-indulgence is a rock rite of passage for many musicians. Every generation has a bunch of artists who decide to make an album (or two or three) that's nearly indecipherable to anyone except the band and their followers. These records have one or more of the following hallmarks:


1. Lyrics with lots of medieval words, such as tempest, screed, manor, shire, cloister, parchment, and pilgrimage.


2. Songs that run more than ten minutes on at least half the album.


3. Covers that look like a Harry Potter book or a Dungeons and Dragons game.


4. Packaging that includes two or three discs.


5. Tracks that feature at least one keyboard solo.


Beyond these characteristics, there's just the vibe of a self-indulgent album. It reeks of self-importance and humorlessness. There's no sense of irony, humility, or humanity. Ultimately lifeless, these projects feel more like musical dissertations than real rock ’n’ roll. The White Album is full of playfulness, humor, heart, and soul. The ones listed below? Not so much.


Here are the five most self-indulgent albums in recent memory. I'm refraining from hitting the easy targets, like ELP's Tarkus, Yes' Tales From Topographic Oceans, and the Moody Blues' Days of Future Passed. In fact, I'm avoiding all of the late-'60s/early '70s rock album output. Been there, done that. Here's the new self-indulgence.

 

Smashing Pumpkins
MACHINA/The Machines of God
Billy Corgan has made a career out of indulging himself musically. This album includes songs with titles like "The Crying Tree of Mercury" and such lyrics as "Into the flow of encrypted movement/Slapback kills the ancient remnants." As if this wasn't enough, Corgan followed up MACHINA with his first solo album, TheFutureEmbrace.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Styx
Kilroy Was Here
From the band that brought us The Grand Illusion and Paradise Theater comes this 1983 concept-album about robots replacing man. The centerpiece? "Mr. Roboto," a song almost too unintentionally funny to be self-indulgent. Almost.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dream Theater
Metropolis Pt. 2: Scenes From a Memory
Dream Theater has the perfect prog-rock pedigree: former students at Berklee College of Music, they spent their early years covering Iron Maiden and Rush tunes, and first named their band Majesty. Any of their albums is worthy of this list, but Scenes From a Memory contains nearly all of the self-indulgent hallmarks.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Queensrÿche
Operation: Mindcrime
Yeah, I know people put this album in the pantheon of Pink Floyd's The Wall and the Who's Tommy. I know it's a considered a metal masterpiece. Still, I'll take Racer X over Dr. X any day. Especially when he's played by Ronnie James Dio.
 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sting

Songs from the Labyrinth
Some would argue that Sting's entire life is an exercise in self-indulgence. This album of 17th-century lute music might prove them right.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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831 Comments

21. yman74 -
guess we should all be listening to 3 chord rock'n'roll. Any band that tries to incorporate non rock influences or lyrical ideas needs to be shot down. Dream Theater has been my favorite band for years and critics and media have kept them from being a huge band. If any radio station had the guts to play them or mainstream media to give them positive coverage we would have good new music to listen to.

22. AlexL -
yessss dream theater rule.

23. james -
The White Album???? Here we are 40 years later and in some ways its the LEAST dated of any of their albums. If that was the best he could come up with....
A self indulgent list without Madonna in it.. who'd a thunk it

24. Cameron -
The only self indulgent people are the ones who actually buy these albums, instead of downloading them for free(Yeah capatalism!!) and they people who call themselves music critics, who should only be taken seriously if they have ever played an instrument or tried to compose a song in their life, otherwise shut your pie hole and get off your soap box of critisism

25. Yahoo! Music User -
I would take many of these longer-form pieces over the three-chord three-minute tuneless crap that critics like you think is great. So rock can't be serious? That is what you are trying to say. Given your wretched "hallmark" analysis, that means we should all march in lockstep by listening to Beyonce, Britney Spears and Michael Bolton as they all avoid your hallmarks. Give me Dark Side of the Moon or The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway any day over boring juvenile sludge that you like.

26. Wise Guy -
The Beatles White Album, in some ways, is "self-indulgent". "While my Guitar Gently Weeps" is one example of self-indulgency. It kind of makes you wonder what happened to George at that ashram in India that made him so "wise and worldly". However, he redeemed himself with "Here Comes the Sun" on Abbey Road.

27. jim -
where's the wall by pink floyd?

28. Will -
Of course the most self indulgent album of all time...LOU REED'S "METAL MACHINE MUSIC" a 2 disc album of distorted feedback, the last side had no ending groove so the tone arm would not cycle off the record, so it would run continuously till the record was removed from the turntable. The label RCA so embarrassed they bought back the records in droves and gave refunds.

29. daniel -
I ll try to make it short: If it's not self indulgent, it can't be rock! Let's go guys...Say yes to the extravaganza!

30. ballsinyoface -
Anything by Phish is self indulgent. Those hippies give each other head all set long

31. irene -
They should add Prince's Around The World In A Day, Grafitti Bridge, and all his albums between the Love Symbol album and Musicology. Between Musicology and 3121, looks like he's grounded again. Finally.

32. The V -
What's with all the hating on Tusk? That happens to be my favourite Fleetwood Mac album.

You want self-indulgent? Try Mike Patton's Adult Themes for Voice. I bet you can't even listen to the entire thing in one sitting.

33. V -
re:36. dukelacrosse32 - 5 minutes ago
where's the wall by pink floyd?

The Final Cut was far more self-indulgent than The Wall. Well, technically it was a Roger Waters solo album with the name of Pink Floyd on it.

34. Michael S. Beaudry -
hey chris. go look up the word "irony". i beg you...

35. erica -
ac/dc

36. Steve H -
What is truly ironic is that I may actually go to the trouble to find and listen to a copy of any one of these albums to judge for myself. The Sting album, no. The guy should have stayed with The Police. I'd listen to any project Stewart Copeland was involved in at any level before I would listen to a "recording of lute music" done by Sting.

I'm sorry, but he did his best song writing with those guys. The sum of the parts is almost always better than the single production of any one member of a band.

37. Paul W -
Who made that album "Larks tongue in Aspic" Was it King Crimson? I don't even know it, but you can just tell from the title that it must qualify here.

38. Paul W -
Who made that album "Larks tongue in Aspic" Was it King Crimson? I don't even know it, but you can just tell from the title that it must qualify here.

39. Danielle N -
face it..there is nothing good about what these people do!

40. Unclepurple -
Pink Floyd is perhaps the most self-indulgent band ever, next to Queen, but then again, just being able to enjoy Floyd to it's fullest is an art form in and of itself, and true Pink Floyd fans are some of the most self-indulgent folks I've known. What Floyd aficionado hasn't locked themselves in with their collection of Pink, a case of beer and a hit of Orange Sunshine and drifted off into that ethereal paradise of slow, eclectic melody, punctuated by unexpected, terrifying crescendos, only to be found fourteen hours later.......smiling ear to ear? Now THAT'S self-indulgence to the max!
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