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The Most Self-Indulgent Albums EVER!

Posted Mon Nov 24, 2008 11:54am PST by Shawn Amos in GetBack

We are in the midst of two album landmarks: the 40th anniversary of the self-titled Beatles double LP known as The White Album and the release of Guns N' Roses' 17-years-in-the-making Chinese Democracy. When someone suggested that perhaps the two-disc White Album was a bit self-indulgent and would have been tighter as a single disc, Paul McCartney famously replied, "It’s the bloody Beatles White Album. Shut up." 'Nuff said.

Chinese Democracy, however, is another story. Even though it's only one disc, it's about as self-indulgent as you can get: millions of dollars spent, hundreds of musicians used, and arrangements so dense that only Axl can understand them.

Self-indulgence is a rock rite of passage for many musicians. Every generation has a bunch of artists who decide to make an album (or two or three) that's nearly indecipherable to anyone except the band and their followers. These records have one or more of the following hallmarks:


1. Lyrics with lots of medieval words, such as tempest, screed, manor, shire, cloister, parchment, and pilgrimage.


2. Songs that run more than ten minutes on at least half the album.


3. Covers that look like a Harry Potter book or a Dungeons and Dragons game.


4. Packaging that includes two or three discs.


5. Tracks that feature at least one keyboard solo.


Beyond these characteristics, there's just the vibe of a self-indulgent album. It reeks of self-importance and humorlessness. There's no sense of irony, humility, or humanity. Ultimately lifeless, these projects feel more like musical dissertations than real rock ’n’ roll. The White Album is full of playfulness, humor, heart, and soul. The ones listed below? Not so much.


Here are the five most self-indulgent albums in recent memory. I'm refraining from hitting the easy targets, like ELP's Tarkus, Yes' Tales From Topographic Oceans, and the Moody Blues' Days of Future Passed. In fact, I'm avoiding all of the late-'60s/early '70s rock album output. Been there, done that. Here's the new self-indulgence.

 

Smashing Pumpkins
MACHINA/The Machines of God
Billy Corgan has made a career out of indulging himself musically. This album includes songs with titles like "The Crying Tree of Mercury" and such lyrics as "Into the flow of encrypted movement/Slapback kills the ancient remnants." As if this wasn't enough, Corgan followed up MACHINA with his first solo album, TheFutureEmbrace.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Styx
Kilroy Was Here
From the band that brought us The Grand Illusion and Paradise Theater comes this 1983 concept-album about robots replacing man. The centerpiece? "Mr. Roboto," a song almost too unintentionally funny to be self-indulgent. Almost.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dream Theater
Metropolis Pt. 2: Scenes From a Memory
Dream Theater has the perfect prog-rock pedigree: former students at Berklee College of Music, they spent their early years covering Iron Maiden and Rush tunes, and first named their band Majesty. Any of their albums is worthy of this list, but Scenes From a Memory contains nearly all of the self-indulgent hallmarks.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Queensrÿche
Operation: Mindcrime
Yeah, I know people put this album in the pantheon of Pink Floyd's The Wall and the Who's Tommy. I know it's a considered a metal masterpiece. Still, I'll take Racer X over Dr. X any day. Especially when he's played by Ronnie James Dio.
 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sting

Songs from the Labyrinth
Some would argue that Sting's entire life is an exercise in self-indulgence. This album of 17th-century lute music might prove them right.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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831 Comments

41. Gloria -
The musicians you dissed are not only masters of their craft, but they are also creative, real and true to themselves--qualities that are increasingly hard to find in popular music. I wouldn't call their concept albums self-indulgent; on the contrary. These musicians make music for music's sake. Hundreds of thousands of bands do not; they make music for YOU in hopes of gaining glory, fortune and fame for themselves. That, I think, is self-indulgent.

-Gloria Lindberg

42. Pat -
What about the Green, Green Grass of Home. that makes me sooooo sad every time i hear it...and where was Mr. Bojangles on the list?

43. Axlsbitch -
I was prepared to dog Chinese Democracy being as my nickname for Axl is 'Washout boy'. I was wrong. I effing love most of it. The first three songs are infectious, they get you hooked. Its all not as good as what you would expect out of seventeen years, but hey. Maybe our expectations were way too high. Everyone has different tastes, and none of that is bad. At least we're free to choose what we want to hear. I think he's found his place and doesn't care what we think. He never did. I'm glad he finally put it out. My BF who hates him actually likes parts of it. Shock of my world. I love all the overindulged artists you mention.. You know what??? All musicians are self-indulged. Please if they weren't they'd never even get past the menial jobs they had before they made it..

44. Yahoo! Music User -
use our illusion was just plain BAD

45. S -
who are the retards. that makes up these list.

Operation Mindcrime is one of the greates albumes put out in the last 30+ years

46. That one guy -
I feel sad for the idiot who thinks Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness is the worse album title ever, I suppose you are one of those people who's a Nickelback fan, and think that Elvis Presley invented Rock-n-Roll. (No offense to Elvis fans, I'm using his fame to make a point.) And for the record, Siamese Dream is by far a more self-indulgent Album for Billy Corgan then MCIS.

47. Derik B -
Who the hell hires these morons to write these lists? Hopefully this isn't their paid profession as somebody is most likely getting screwed by having to pay them if it is.

48. jonl -
hmm...paint the mirror black.

49. Yahoo! Music User -
Use your illusion

50. michael s -
lick off

51. J_Hall -
i really hate to belittle this list but...after thses guys stopped making music(in a mainstream sense) music just got really [profane]ty...

52. VirgilioN -
Anything David Byrne post-Talking Heads

53. Ricky Retardo -
Chinese Democracy has to be the ultimate self-indulgent album of all time!!! It's pretty damn good, though, huh? LOL

54. LeslieL -
Umagumma by Floyd
and
Brain Surgery Salad dont make the list?

55. Yahoo! Music User -
how about phil collins?

that guy's fat bald face is plastered on all (or most) of his solo albums.

56. Hornman -
Depeche Mode: Songs of Faith and Devotion should be on this list.

57. Yahoo! Music User -
emerson lake and palmer?

that album is great.

and david byrne post talking heads?

just because you guys dont like the music doesnt mean its self-indulgent

58. Glenn -
Anybody ever hear Trey Anastasio's project, "Surrender to the Air?" You can have my disc if you want it.

59. Yahoo! Music User -
ricky retardo- is that you scott b ordering food?

60. Lysander S -
""""1. Lyrics with lots of medieval words, such as tempest, screed, manor, shire, cloister, parchment, and pilgrimage.


2. Songs that run more than ten minutes on at least half the album.


3. Covers that look like a Harry Potter book or a Dungeons and Dragons game.


4. Packaging that includes two or three discs.


5. Tracks that feature at least one keyboard solo.""""


...sounds like someone is trying to discourage creativity.

Snobby much?
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