The Most Self-Indulgent Albums EVER!
We are in the midst of two album landmarks: the 40th anniversary of the self-titled Beatles double LP known as The White Album and the release of Guns N' Roses' 17-years-in-the-making Chinese Democracy. When someone suggested that perhaps the two-disc White Album was a bit self-indulgent and would have been tighter as a single disc, Paul McCartney famously replied, "It’s the bloody Beatles White Album. Shut up." 'Nuff said.
Chinese Democracy, however, is another story. Even though it's only one disc, it's about as self-indulgent as you can get: millions of dollars spent, hundreds of musicians used, and arrangements so dense that only Axl can understand them.
Self-indulgence is a rock rite of passage for many musicians. Every generation has a bunch of artists who decide to make an album (or two or three) that's nearly indecipherable to anyone except the band and their followers. These records have one or more of the following hallmarks:
1. Lyrics with lots of medieval words, such as tempest, screed, manor, shire, cloister, parchment, and pilgrimage.
2. Songs that run more than ten minutes on at least half the album.
3. Covers that look like a Harry Potter book or a Dungeons and Dragons game.
4. Packaging that includes two or three discs.
5. Tracks that feature at least one keyboard solo.
Beyond these characteristics, there's just the vibe of a self-indulgent album. It reeks of self-importance and humorlessness. There's no sense of irony, humility, or humanity. Ultimately lifeless, these projects feel more like musical dissertations than real rock ’n’ roll. The White Album is full of playfulness, humor, heart, and soul. The ones listed below? Not so much.
Here are the five most self-indulgent albums in recent memory. I'm refraining from hitting the easy targets, like ELP's Tarkus, Yes' Tales From Topographic Oceans, and the Moody Blues' Days of Future Passed. In fact, I'm avoiding all of the late-'60s/early '70s rock album output. Been there, done that. Here's the new self-indulgence.
Smashing Pumpkins
MACHINA/The Machines of God
Billy Corgan has made a career out of indulging himself musically. This album includes songs with titles like "The Crying Tree of Mercury" and such lyrics as "Into the flow of encrypted movement/Slapback kills the ancient remnants." As if this wasn't enough, Corgan followed up MACHINA with his first solo album, TheFutureEmbrace.
Styx
Kilroy Was Here
From the band that brought us The Grand Illusion and Paradise Theater comes this 1983 concept-album about robots replacing man. The centerpiece? "Mr. Roboto," a song almost too unintentionally funny to be self-indulgent. Almost.
Dream Theater
Metropolis Pt. 2: Scenes From a Memory
Dream Theater has the perfect prog-rock pedigree: former students at Berklee College of Music, they spent their early years covering Iron Maiden and Rush tunes, and first named their band Majesty. Any of their albums is worthy of this list, but Scenes From a Memory contains nearly all of the self-indulgent hallmarks.
Queensrÿche
Operation: Mindcrime
Yeah, I know people put this album in the pantheon of Pink Floyd's The Wall and the Who's Tommy. I know it's a considered a metal masterpiece. Still, I'll take Racer X over Dr. X any day. Especially when he's played by Ronnie James Dio.
Sting
Songs from the Labyrinth
Some would argue that Sting's entire life is an exercise in self-indulgence. This album of 17th-century lute music might prove them right.
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so it's actually quite the opposite of self indulgence
Use Your Illusion 1&2-GnR (Could have made 1 great single album)
The Elder-Kiss
Days of Future Past - Moody Blues( you forgot a few of their albums)
Operation Mindcrime(it was a rock opera, might as well mention Tommy too!)
Any Early Queen album, HAY I loved all these albums and have them on CD. Self Indulgent, or a sign of those times. Beatles wern't the only ones that were frikken talented, sounds like a jelouse critic!
I think "Self-indulgent" is kind of a poor word choice here. Sure, there are some bands/people who use long songs and extended solos to say "look how great I am" but I think that some of the bands just want to offer the listeners something more intelligent and complex then the standard 4 chord radio rock song about getting dumped. The only way you can really tell if an album is self-indulgent is if the artist shows it in their personality. For example if you take a band like Opeth who have plenty of 10+ minute songs with titles like Hex Omega, Dirge for November, and Moonlapse Vertigo, and compare them with any mainstream rapper with simple song structures and vocabulary it is evident that the rapper is more self-indulgent and arrogant.
Cahsed amid fusions of wonder, in moments hardly seen forgotten" (strike three).
But seriously, this list leaves off countless hip hop albums -- who is more self-obsessed than the average rapper, usually going on at length about themselves, their riches, their bi -- excuse me I meant groupies, how fearsome they are on the street, etc. Tupac's "All Eyes on Me" is a good example. You can tell by the title alone he was self-obsessed.
Although, other extremely self indulgent bands? Anything Rolling Stones post their early years.. Has anyone even heard the interview with McJager's bandmates. "If you ever see us in concert, and notice are songs are different then on CD.. it's because we change them, depending upon McJager's mood, or his condition... what notes he can hit. It's all about him you know" Hell... Can't get much worse then that?
And of course, Yoko Ono. Unending ego. Nothing tops Yoko Ono. I swear, she was born, and she sucked the ego of a thousand unborn Kennedys and two-thousand unborn Rockefellers from the plane of limbo, and in that void they gathered to create her.
I mean, come on. She said the Beatles were a "quaint little band" before she met Lenin. Super Cereal man. Super.