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The Most Self-Indulgent Albums EVER!

Posted Mon Nov 24, 2008 11:54am PST by Shawn Amos in GetBack

We are in the midst of two album landmarks: the 40th anniversary of the self-titled Beatles double LP known as The White Album and the release of Guns N' Roses' 17-years-in-the-making Chinese Democracy. When someone suggested that perhaps the two-disc White Album was a bit self-indulgent and would have been tighter as a single disc, Paul McCartney famously replied, "It’s the bloody Beatles White Album. Shut up." 'Nuff said.

Chinese Democracy, however, is another story. Even though it's only one disc, it's about as self-indulgent as you can get: millions of dollars spent, hundreds of musicians used, and arrangements so dense that only Axl can understand them.

Self-indulgence is a rock rite of passage for many musicians. Every generation has a bunch of artists who decide to make an album (or two or three) that's nearly indecipherable to anyone except the band and their followers. These records have one or more of the following hallmarks:


1. Lyrics with lots of medieval words, such as tempest, screed, manor, shire, cloister, parchment, and pilgrimage.


2. Songs that run more than ten minutes on at least half the album.


3. Covers that look like a Harry Potter book or a Dungeons and Dragons game.


4. Packaging that includes two or three discs.


5. Tracks that feature at least one keyboard solo.


Beyond these characteristics, there's just the vibe of a self-indulgent album. It reeks of self-importance and humorlessness. There's no sense of irony, humility, or humanity. Ultimately lifeless, these projects feel more like musical dissertations than real rock ’n’ roll. The White Album is full of playfulness, humor, heart, and soul. The ones listed below? Not so much.


Here are the five most self-indulgent albums in recent memory. I'm refraining from hitting the easy targets, like ELP's Tarkus, Yes' Tales From Topographic Oceans, and the Moody Blues' Days of Future Passed. In fact, I'm avoiding all of the late-'60s/early '70s rock album output. Been there, done that. Here's the new self-indulgence.

 

Smashing Pumpkins
MACHINA/The Machines of God
Billy Corgan has made a career out of indulging himself musically. This album includes songs with titles like "The Crying Tree of Mercury" and such lyrics as "Into the flow of encrypted movement/Slapback kills the ancient remnants." As if this wasn't enough, Corgan followed up MACHINA with his first solo album, TheFutureEmbrace.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Styx
Kilroy Was Here
From the band that brought us The Grand Illusion and Paradise Theater comes this 1983 concept-album about robots replacing man. The centerpiece? "Mr. Roboto," a song almost too unintentionally funny to be self-indulgent. Almost.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dream Theater
Metropolis Pt. 2: Scenes From a Memory
Dream Theater has the perfect prog-rock pedigree: former students at Berklee College of Music, they spent their early years covering Iron Maiden and Rush tunes, and first named their band Majesty. Any of their albums is worthy of this list, but Scenes From a Memory contains nearly all of the self-indulgent hallmarks.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Queensrÿche
Operation: Mindcrime
Yeah, I know people put this album in the pantheon of Pink Floyd's The Wall and the Who's Tommy. I know it's a considered a metal masterpiece. Still, I'll take Racer X over Dr. X any day. Especially when he's played by Ronnie James Dio.
 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sting

Songs from the Labyrinth
Some would argue that Sting's entire life is an exercise in self-indulgence. This album of 17th-century lute music might prove them right.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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831 Comments

101. Beverly -
And "long live it"!!!!!

102. Scott -
Larks Tongues in Aspic was a disc by King Crimson, a band I could never understand why critics raved about them. Their debut in the court of the crimson king has never been matched by anybody, not even them. Those founders, Robert Fripp and Brian Eno made such incredible stuff and really did amazing solo works, and helped out and influenced others, like BOWIE. The whole oveerwrought 60's things and synthesizers, supergroups, horns and backup singers. I got into punk too late, but at least the New Wave and Punkers understood LESS is MORE. I've never liked G'N'R much, but the more I hear Slash do session work, hmmm. AC/DC. Yes, I didn't like WALL when it came out, but the film was excellent. The band fired Roger Waters for being too controlling and egocentric. Their early albums had more balls, when they didn't have to worry about besting themselves. Elvis has declined for me over time as I've heard more of the black artists he replaced and the other early rockers like eddie cochran whom he eclipsed. Everyone stole from Chuck Berry, little richard, and jerry lee lewis, carl perkins, but those old timers became parodies of themselves. Compared to Mozart, Beethoven and Bach, etc., they all fall short. Even Keith Richards loves Mozart.

103. Beverly -
Just catching up on reading some of the comments-the EAGLES-the most absolutely self-indulgent band ever which would include everyone of their albums-but I'll give Joe Walsh a break & not include him with Frey & the drummer dude- Henley-I think Walsh just needed a regular paycheck 'cause he was partying way too much!!!! Anyway, the EAGLES suck!

104. BUDDHA LOTUS -
Pink Floyd - The Wall is BY FAR the most self indulgent AOR neo- psychedelia piece of crap ever put on tape. Pure garbage/

105. Victoria -
May have been mentioned in earlier post but U2's Rattle & Hum is a shrine to themselves!@!

106. SteveSF -
I've always though most of Prince's music was self-indulgent crap. I admire a few of his mid-80's radio hits, but only in their single form---he has a bad habit of stretching a 4-minute song into an 8-minute song.

107. Beverly -
I wish I had the patience & thought processes of a younger brain to write a few paragraphs on this stuff into 1 complete comment not several as I am doing-but how about that "loser" band-38 Special-I felt that they always thought they were more than what they really were-UNTALENTED-but I guess you have to think you are talented to get up & do your music thing!!! What label were they on?

108. elvis -
You forgot my favorite band to hate for their absolute musical masterbation... Boston!!

109. Shawn -
good list. easy targets. i agree with every choice.

110. Iso. -
hmm? Kid "Rock" nuf sead.

111. RickJ -
The "easy targets" you mention, Shawn, prove conclusively that you are clueless and without the least ability to discern good music from bad. The Moody Blues "Days of Future Passed", as one example, is a timeless classic that will outlast you by centuries. And your other "easy target" choices indicate that you SHOULD avoid discussing all of the late-'60s/early '70s rock album output as you obviously don't know jack s**t about that era's music! (Which I'd bet is because you hadn't even been born when it was popular).

And Dream Theater just plain rocks!

Don't waste your time reading this hack, folks!

112. mark -
response to first comment: Stevie's work on that album is brilliant!

113. David -
The requisites of self indulgence sound like every power metal album ever. Blind Guardian FTW!!!

114. Yahoo! Music User -
The White Album rules. Self indulgence? I don't think so. Sheer genius is more like. Like McCartney said, "It's The bloody Beatle's White Album, shut up."

115. Doug -
I notice that the many of the choices and 90% of the comments are about music that was written 30 or 40 years ago. There's your answer right there... who gives about today's mass-produced garbage. But it's no surprise - when MTV came on the scene, the focus changed from the music to the image, and nothing else has mattered since. It was all about profit for a while, until technology changed and took even the profit motive away. Yeah, God forbid a song should have a piano solo in it.

116. Sophea -
If those are the characteristics of self-indulgent, then Pink Floyd, The Moody Blues and King Crimson should be on the list. but I love these bands

117. MartinB -
What happened to Led ZEP and ZOZO? Wasn't that the debut of "Stairway to Heaven"? Has ALL the characteristics in one song (almost)! That's when everyone decided they needed to do medieval ballads.

118. Yahoo! Music User -
Indulgent or not, Dream Theater's "Scenes from a Memory" is a masterpiece!

119. The Chief -
Framptom Comes Alive! Should be #1!

120. __A_YAHOO_USER__ -
How about Ronnie James Dio and all his medievalness? You know...the light and the dark,dragons fire. I never understood what Ronnie was talking about but I loved the way he sang it!
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