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The Most Self-Indulgent Albums EVER!

Posted Mon Nov 24, 2008 11:54am PST by Shawn Amos in GetBack

We are in the midst of two album landmarks: the 40th anniversary of the self-titled Beatles double LP known as The White Album and the release of Guns N' Roses' 17-years-in-the-making Chinese Democracy. When someone suggested that perhaps the two-disc White Album was a bit self-indulgent and would have been tighter as a single disc, Paul McCartney famously replied, "It’s the bloody Beatles White Album. Shut up." 'Nuff said.

Chinese Democracy, however, is another story. Even though it's only one disc, it's about as self-indulgent as you can get: millions of dollars spent, hundreds of musicians used, and arrangements so dense that only Axl can understand them.

Self-indulgence is a rock rite of passage for many musicians. Every generation has a bunch of artists who decide to make an album (or two or three) that's nearly indecipherable to anyone except the band and their followers. These records have one or more of the following hallmarks:


1. Lyrics with lots of medieval words, such as tempest, screed, manor, shire, cloister, parchment, and pilgrimage.


2. Songs that run more than ten minutes on at least half the album.


3. Covers that look like a Harry Potter book or a Dungeons and Dragons game.


4. Packaging that includes two or three discs.


5. Tracks that feature at least one keyboard solo.


Beyond these characteristics, there's just the vibe of a self-indulgent album. It reeks of self-importance and humorlessness. There's no sense of irony, humility, or humanity. Ultimately lifeless, these projects feel more like musical dissertations than real rock ’n’ roll. The White Album is full of playfulness, humor, heart, and soul. The ones listed below? Not so much.


Here are the five most self-indulgent albums in recent memory. I'm refraining from hitting the easy targets, like ELP's Tarkus, Yes' Tales From Topographic Oceans, and the Moody Blues' Days of Future Passed. In fact, I'm avoiding all of the late-'60s/early '70s rock album output. Been there, done that. Here's the new self-indulgence.

 

Smashing Pumpkins
MACHINA/The Machines of God
Billy Corgan has made a career out of indulging himself musically. This album includes songs with titles like "The Crying Tree of Mercury" and such lyrics as "Into the flow of encrypted movement/Slapback kills the ancient remnants." As if this wasn't enough, Corgan followed up MACHINA with his first solo album, TheFutureEmbrace.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Styx
Kilroy Was Here
From the band that brought us The Grand Illusion and Paradise Theater comes this 1983 concept-album about robots replacing man. The centerpiece? "Mr. Roboto," a song almost too unintentionally funny to be self-indulgent. Almost.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dream Theater
Metropolis Pt. 2: Scenes From a Memory
Dream Theater has the perfect prog-rock pedigree: former students at Berklee College of Music, they spent their early years covering Iron Maiden and Rush tunes, and first named their band Majesty. Any of their albums is worthy of this list, but Scenes From a Memory contains nearly all of the self-indulgent hallmarks.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Queensrÿche
Operation: Mindcrime
Yeah, I know people put this album in the pantheon of Pink Floyd's The Wall and the Who's Tommy. I know it's a considered a metal masterpiece. Still, I'll take Racer X over Dr. X any day. Especially when he's played by Ronnie James Dio.
 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sting

Songs from the Labyrinth
Some would argue that Sting's entire life is an exercise in self-indulgence. This album of 17th-century lute music might prove them right.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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831 Comments

141. Mike _ -
DAVIDE BOWIE IS ABOUT AS SELF-INDULGENT AS CAN BE. MORE SO THAN STING. WHY IS BOWIE NOT ON THE LIST? HOW MUCH MAKE UP DID BOWIE WEAR IN THE 70'S BECAUSE HIS MUSIC COULDN'T GARNER ANY ATTENTION BY ITSELF? I MEAN, ANY "MUSICIAN" WHO NEEDS TO COME ON STAGE IN A COSTUME TO GET ATTENTION, SHOULD BE FLAGGED FOR MAJOR SELF INDULGENCE RIGHT THERE.

HEY, IF SOME PEOPLE CAN UNDERSTAND STING AND YOU CAN'T THAT'S YOUR PROBLEM NOT STINGS! EVERY ARTIST HAS THEIR BAD MATERIAL BUT I DON'T THINK STING EVER NEEDED TO DRESS UP TO GET ATTENTION.

142. Think Please -
You forgot the Moody Blues and how about Counting Crows Recovering the Sattelites

143. Ragdollfloozie the tranquil -
A Farewell to Kings by Rush...and anything they did afterwards!

144. BB -
Plastic Ono Band...totally self-indulgent but greatest rock album all time.

Can't say the same about Double Fantasy.

145. september29th -
where's "the elder" by kiss?

146. Heckster -
A good reminder of what happens when you take yourself too seriously. But you left out one of the most SI albums ever produced, and amazingly incomprehensible work by Pat Metheny the name of which escapes me . . . wait, I'm thinking . . . .

147. Heckster -
Oh yeah, Zero Tolerance for Silence. Right? That's the all time killer. Am I right, or what?

148. Ragdollfloozie the tranquil -
Oh oh oh actually I think Hemispheres might be the cut off point!
Actually pretty much all Rush. I liked them when I was a teen though but my self indulgence was legendary too.

149. Matt -
I think that any artist should write what he/she wants to write. We can either listen to it-- or not. Nothing wrong with "self indulgent" albums- whatever that really means.

150. Yahoo! Music User -
Also Jethro Tull's Thick as a Brick (which I do like, but 1 track 45 minutes long...)

151. Heckster -
I mean, he doesn't even try to make any sense of it. What was that? A shroom rush during an LSD trip? I have to ake it out and listen once more, maybe. But the impression I got was, like, maybe in 2190 this is going to sound like some old mellow stuff . . .

152. Brad B -
Anything after Exile by the Rolling Stones

153. jon g -
I have 5 words: GARTH BROOKS AS CHRIS GAINES! self indulgent yet brilliant IMO.

154. Rob -
Though I love the egotistical son-of-a_______, pretty much anything by Todd Rundgren would fit here, especially "A Wizard, A True Star," or "Todd."

155. Keysaan -
KANYE WEST'S "808'S & HEARTBREAK" MOST SELF-INDULGENT, EXORCISM IN EXPELLING SUCESSES MANY DEMONS, HE GOES THROUGH THE PROCESS BUT I DOUBT THE DEMONS ARE GONE!

156. Cancer Kid -
I think the most self indulgent album of all time is KISS "Psycho Circus" with tracks such as "We Are One" and "You Wanted The Best You Got The Best" this was the epitome of self indulgence!

157. Heckster -
Look, I love the guy. He's totally out front. He's an amazing talent, and his stuff is not cliche or uninspired. People liked putting him down a few years ago, but those critics had a coked up sense of righteousness I just couldn't follow. Hail Pat Metheney, hail the master! Zero Tolerance for Silence all the way, man! Dig that, Kudo doodoos . . . .

158. Yahoo! Music User -
Bands i extremely appreciate r bands that have stood the by there music no matter the era... Hawkwind, Ozric tentacles,Porcupine tree,Steve hillage, king crimson,to name a few.... bands that are musically talented and play for the sole purpose too share,passion,definit music that is truely NON-Commercial.... what a true relief.... P.Tree i may admit are most phenominal.... As hawkwind has 40 years experience n hillage.... however.... Minneapolis,mn usa myself wishes your daily music touches you in a positive way.....from robin trower-to-joseph arthur.... indie/non-mainstream.... Rules... peace-out 2 all...jacques,l

159. Adam -
How about anything Mike Patton has done outside of Faith No More?

160. Kurt -
Are we forgetting the fact that Britney Spears, most country music, and all of rap is basically self-indulgent, and basically bastardizes all attempts by urban communities and all attempts by feminism, who once didn't want to be objectified and now scream like attention maggots, succeed? Rock and roll is rock and roll, but I think we're pointing the finger in the wrong direction here....It could be said: Gwen Stefani is a cool person in real life, but admits to "doing what people want"l; doesn't that make you a self-obsessed fool who turns the tables to be self-indulgent....in other words, a self-fulfilling tool? I'm just sayin'....this post is moot, because most music that America buys today is pretty damn shameful, so point the finger at the public for once; we are way too nice....90% of America, music-wise, is just plain stupid!
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