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Jay-Z 'Used To Love H.E.R.' Too

Posted Tue Jun 9, 2009 2:36am PDT by Billy Johnson, Jr. in Hip-Hop Media Training
It's been a good minute since a rap song sent the masses abuzz. So props to Jay-Z for setting this one off with "Death Of Auto-Tune."

 

People can't stop talking about the track released last week that slams the computer enhanced hip-hop vocals currently dominating the charts. We've all been complaining, saying that the genre full of copy cat emcees is lacking originality. Auto-Tune forerunner T-Pain even dissed unnamed and unauthorized adopters of his style on last year's comedic "Karaoke."

Jay-Z rhymes that people are "T-Pain'ing" too much and adds that he has had enough of hip-hop's ringtone obsessed era.

Apparently, T-Pain doesn't take offense to Jigga's brash criticism that portrays Auto-Tune as the downfall of hip-hop. Jay-Z received an unannounced visit from Pain during his own surprise visit to Hot 97's Summer Jam concert Sunday in New York. In the midst of performing his instant classic, Pain walked onto the stage and stood alongside Jay as he rapped.

While I'm glad to know T-Pain's reaction, I'm way more interested in Common's opinion about the song.

"Death Of Auto-Tune" feels a lot in spirit like Common's "I Used To Love H.E.R." In 1994, Common wasn't infuriated with Teddy Riley and his all encompassing synthesized New Jack movement, but he did have a strong opinion about gangsta rap and the influence it was having on the art form.

Much like Jay-Z blames Auto-Tune for ruining hip-hop on "Death Of Auto-Tune," Common took the contributions from hardcore thug rhymes to task. Common cleverly wrote "I Used To Love H.E.R." as if he were referring to an ex-girlfriend, though h.e.r. was actually a metaphor for hip-hop. H.e.r. was an acronym for hip-hop in its essence is real.

In the song Common made sure to include the line "I wasn't salty she was with the boys from the hood," hoping to avoid any conflicts with West Coast artists like Dr. Dre, Eazy-E, and Ice Cube, whose controversial sound had taken over mainstream rap. But Ice Cube, W.C., and Mack 10 under the Westside Connection moniker took offense and ignited a lyrical beef with Common just as the East Coast verses West Coast feud ensued.

So far, Jay-Z's backlash will be tame compared to what Common experienced. Twitter complaints from Jim Jones and Webstar haven't sparked too much talk.

I just wonder if Jay has cited Common's "I Used To Love H.E.R." as an inspiration.

There's no way Common's "I Used To Love H.E.R." was not a motivator for "Death Of Auto-Tune."

"I Used To Love H.E.R." and "Death Of Auto-Tune" were even both produced by Chicago beat maker No I.D.

 

You can't tell me that the "I Used To Love H.E.R." topic did not come up during the making of the track.

It's like Jay-Z had another Black Album "Moment Of Clarity."

I had to rewind it the first time I heard Jay rhyme it:

If skills sold, truth be told
I'd probably be lyrically, Talib Kweli
Truthfully, I want to rhyme like Common Sense
But I did five mil', I ain't been rhymin' like Common since

I guess we have Auto-Tune to thank.

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50 Comments

1. ryan -
that song is so tru and fukin kiks ass

2. Elisha -
Finally, someone stands up and says Hip Hop and sold out to the mechanical voice using stripper loving crowd

3. Dell -
let the people know what's real

4. musicfan2009 -
Yes, Britney and Lady GaGa hip-hop versions of songs are cool, and I would let SoujaBoytellhim off the hook with "Kiss me thru the phone" and songs off of that album. But they have a point, the point of music is for it to always be different and ever since the Backstreet Boys have came out it just seems like that the music world is stuck in the Moby era and like every is so much alike anymore it feels like Vanilla or old hat to me, even when it's only been on the charts a few weeks. It's like being stuck in 1999 and 2000 again, almost. Without the jokes by George Carlin to enlight and entertain all.

5. Anthony -
one of the best rappers alive better believe it, Jay-z is taking no shorts from the industry na mean!! call it what u want but it's a lot of gimickey rappers out there taking one style and running with it for days and months on out. shout out!! to nas, rick ross, young jeezy, and many more for keeping it fresh & street.

6. Thro Down -
I love the new song, and Jay-Z speaks truth right here, but I gotta ask, how is Jay dissing the auto-tune trend even remotely related to Common's seminal track "I Used To Love H.E.R.?" That's a bit of a stretch as far as I'm concerned.

C'mon, one song is a certified hip-hop classic, the other is a mixtape/internet release.

7. Ed -
Its about time someone had the courage to diss a piece of software in the HipHop game, autotunes is raps public enemy #1, its been abused to the point of trashing artist who dare use it, aka Weezy, Kanye, T pain, just to name a few. Imho, auto tunes has no place in something like Rap/Hip Hop genre, leave all that robotic crap to Dance, Rave or Electronica music. Raps has always been all about the spoken word. I do have to agree that the beat is complete garbage, don’t understand how Jay-z got convinced that this is the anthem for killing autotunes because lyrically, he put an end to robotic voices in HipHop, WELL DONE JAY, U STILL THE MAN REGARDLESS.

8. -
I have to agree with “Edtech” somewhat, the beat for “DOA” was a bit lame, you recognize when a rap beat hits you hard and this didn’t do it for me, somewhat losing me in the process. As for the lyrical content, Jay-z murdered Antares, basically saying, enough with all the vocal gimmicks in Hip Hop, I definitely know now that their are a bunch of idiot producers going back to the drawing board as we speak as a result of this.

By the way, I never liked the idea of auto tunes in Rap, I’m amaze it got this far, maybe we’ll see more creativity and credibility back in Rap. The Message is clear.

9. BADD INFLUENCE -
Yea...the lyrics was good...I agreed with most of it. the beat however could have been way better. The writer was not saying the song was similar to Common's, he was saying it could have been some sort of inspiration to J. I hope they stop with this Autotune mess fo real. Especially lil wayne...this guy has way too much talent to be making to many tracks tht are infulenced by this crap

10. kendawg -
Thank you Hovie for speaking for the ones that love pure Hip Hop. There are too many cookie cutter artists who don't have of sense of creativity, and because of the abuse of Autotuning Roger Troutman, the innovator of that sound is rolling over in his grave. My advice to the aspiring artists out there, work hard, set your own trend, put your own fingerprints in the rap game, and you will achieve success.

11. Lisa -
this is yo girl from b'ham thank u! thank u! i luv u 4 bing real jz it is what it is:)

12. Lisa -
dont get mad b real!

13. Bill -
Speaking of setting a new trend and putting your own fingerprints in the rap game have you heard Rollercoaster Ride from KrossBreed? chk it out http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=363989491

14. John -
Someone decipher "b real", and why that's some standard for exceptional art. It can't mean the same thing to two separate people, academically speaking at least. It flies in the face of the communicative theory of reality. But I think hip-hop while a "possible" art-from, is so over hyped, surreptitious, and stands on marketing merits more than musical quality, I'm sure I'm just not b'n real ya'll... Take some melody lessons and learn to write your own. ITS GETTING SO BORING!!

15. Yahoo! Music User -
Amen, kendawg! Well said! I like Jay's song for exactly the same reason. I miss the old hip hop that had substance, story and originality (sometimes with a little fun thrown in the mix)...not the songs that go on and on about the cars you drive or the hood you are from or just repeat the same few words over and over again through the whole song. The beats of those songs are the only reason people like them and you may as well go back to the old bass tapes and forget the voice action. I'm glad I'm not the only one who remembers that T-Pain was not the original...I used to love me some Roger and Zapp, although T-Pain did do his own thing and people need to stop biting the same style.

16. TrueBlue -
yawn...

17. Sassy -
SONG SUCKS NOT A FAN OF J-Z ANY REAL TRUE RAPPER'S OUT THERE ,like isnt j-z forty something already give a break go do something with yourself like maybe getting your wife knocked up .

18. Sassy -
dont know why anyone would think to bite t-pains style he doesn't even really sing in any of his songs .I have seen him on t.v perform and he tells the audience to sing and i say no dum-ass you sing thats why we pay top ticket prices to see you sing but all the rappers do it they have young america fooled with that fake talent they cant sing and rap there out of breath they all suck.

19. stephen t -
THATS WHAT IM TALKIN ABOUT.

20. December -
Rap is rap, rock is rock, hip-hop is hip-hop, it's all been done. I don't see why it matters if someone loves a new toy like autotune. Let people make the kind of music they love. This is just a song to get people talking and sell another single.
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