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Pro-Anorexia songs? "Lucy at the Gym" and "Supermodel"

Posted Wed Feb 13, 2008 7:37am PST by Jill Sobule in Jill Sobule and The Provocateurs


A couple of months ago, I Googled myself (not the coolest thing to do). It's surprising and strange what comes up, especially when checking out the blogs. Some of the more interesting, or rather disturbing hits I get, are on "pro-ana" sites. Now, for the unaware - and I was until I found two of my songs listed as "thinspiration" - pro-ana sites are forums for mostly young girls who have anorexia or bulimia... and see it as a good thing.

They are pretty stunning and...very twisted. They have adoring pictures of rail-thin celebrities like the Olsen Twins and Posh Spice. There are recipes (?) and tips on suppressing hunger pains: "You can train yourself to forget hunger by gently punching your stomach every time you get hungry because you'll hurt too bad to eat."

I think now I should tell you that I, Jill of Provocateur semi-fame, suffered with an eating disorder in the 80s. It was miserable, and a  waste of six years. However, it has, as well as other youthful troubles, made me who I am today. My art and song-writing, I am sure, has also been marked by those years. "Lucy at the gym", and "Supermodel"(from the movie, Clueless), would not have been born, if not for it.

So, Lucy, the star of my song, is a girl who won't eat and can't stop exercising. I have great empathy for her, but this is no "pro-ana" song -  in fact, quite the opposite. I was curious why some saw it as such, so I emailed Terra Atril, who writes eatingdisorder.com, on why she added the song to her top 10 list of "pro-ana" songs. Here's what she said:

"Well, I could put some real thought into this, or I could go with instinct  basically just blame it on a cross between the lyrics and young-eating-disordered minds being fickle. People truly in the thick of an eating disorder have a combination of suicidal tendencies and god complex. "Lucy" is a character who can be seen as a deity, an example of how to live, and maybe die."

Amazing. But what is also of interest is how thoughtful and smart this "pro-ana" Terra Atril is. She went on to say:

"people read into lyrics BIG TIME and people with mental illnesses, especially, are capable of seeing any meaning possible from literally any combination of words. Another example I didn't include would be Radiohead's 'Creep'. It's obviously not about eating disorders, but the lines, "I want a perfect body, I want a perfect soul," just hits people the right way, I suppose.
I was originally planning on the inclusion of "Supermodel," but "Lucy...." just seemed more apt and what the masses (as it were) would be looking for. Plus, "Supermodel" could be construed too easily as tongue-in-cheek and honestly, the last thing people with eating disorders need is to feel mocked."


By the way, other "pro-ana" songs on the list were "Ana's Song" by Silverchair and Fiona Apple's "Paper Bag".

Now before I gross you out with a youtube video of "Lucy at The Gym" posted by some poor sick girl, I should tell you that the song has also been used in a more positive therapeutic way.   In February, which by the way is Eating Disorder Awareness Month, a director from an eating disorder clinic asked permission to use the song:
 
"I think that "Lucy at the Gym" is a very powerful song.  I am using it in a slideshow to illustrate to others what it feels like to have an eating disorder.  I think it is the perfect song because of the honest depiction of "Lucy".  I think the song along with pictures of calorie counts, the word diet in cereal, and the scale show the real torment of eating disorders.  I am planning on showing the slideshow in a presentation at the University of Texas at El Paso.
I hope to use the song to assist in raising awareness and promote the prevention of eating disorders."


Phew! Well, at least most people, I hope, get the intention of the song. Anyway, here's the lyric to "Lucy at the Gym", followed by a completely disturbing video. And, no I don't approve of this youtube.

Lucy at the gym. She's there every time I go
and I don't go that often, so she must live at the gym
I stare at her ribs they show through the spandex
Her little legs are working, she's going somewhere
She's climbing up the stairs and when she reaches the top
her dreams will be there

Lucy at the gym. Lucy on the scale for the third time
Thru thick and thin, Lucy's at the gym
She's staring at the clock and like the 2nd hand she never stops
She's Lucy at the gym

When she takes a shower, after all the hours
Does she have a place to go.Is there someone waiting
Or is Lucy all alone

I'm at the gym and Lucy's not there
It's got me kinda worried so I imagine the worst
She's made it up to heaven
And when she met her maker, he said "come right in"
"I'll show you around the gym"
"Everyone's beautiful and thin"
"And here there's no sin, and your life can begin
Lucy at the gym"



12 Comments

1. Lisa Marie R -
I am horrified that videos like this are out there. As someone who had an eating disorder this just brings back the feelings of self-hate and loathing. It's truly sad. Further more, the song does not seem to promote eating disorders at all. In fact, it seems like a song of pity and sadness. Why anyone would use it to promote their disease is beyong me. Hopefully this article will help shed some light on a terrible part of society.

2. Yahoo! Music User -
This song is such beautiful music about such a horribly sad tragedy. Maybe people will use it to build awareness among young girls and get them to talk openly about body image and self-esteem. I have never suffered from an eating disorder, but I was often put down by my father and others as fat, ugly, too smart to get a man (hah!)and so on. I understand that these comments came from someone else's emotional and psychological problems, but it still makes me sad that I had no one to see the beauty in me when I was a teenager.
What can we all do to help girls see that they are intrinsically beautiful and worthwhile, regardless of what other people tell them? I wanted to grab each of the girls in the video and tell them how precious they are. I have seen great changes for women since I was a little girl. How sad to think that we still are being poisoned by the self-centered attitudes of other people.

3. Zoeyjane -
Hi Jill. Thanks for the kind words. I should clarify a couple of things, thought, just so that, well, I'm not the bad guy, tarnishing a great song. First of all, when I wrote that post on Eatingdisordertalk.com, for whom I'm not longer writing, I tried to make it clear that I was not pro-ana. I don't want to ever be seen in the same league as most of those writers, forums and sites. I'm just a girl whose had a mokey on her back for 20 years and has too many words to keep them inside.

Secondly, the songs I listed...they were chosen from an informal survey of some of the most popular pro-ana sites' views of 'thinspiring' music. I didn't choose these songs myself, and honestly, I'm sadly a pro, not looking for the inspiration aurally or otherwise, to remain unhealthy.

I guess the main point I want to make is that while it may be disturbing that people would view your song(s) and others as inspiration for starvation, there's always the flip side that when (if) these people come out on the other side, they'll look to the authors, performers and writers and see that they came out of it, too. In fact, some people may choose their music for thinspiration, but I think after a little while, the reality of the artist and the imagery of the music stop co existing - ultimately becoming inspiration for health.

Just my $0.02. Take care.

4. Yahoo! Music User -
Thanks Terra.

The one thing that I have been thinking about today is how the youtube of Lucy, is not all that more pornographic (in an anorexic sense) then say Us or OK magazine, or the Marc Jacob models at the New York fashion show last week. In fact, they are way more insidious.
One kind of interesting and positive story is that three British models were banned from the Madrid fashion show this week. A trend? I hope so.

But on the other hand, I just read this:

"Male models are being forced to conform to a thin body shape like female models, and this has resulted in a kind of skinny schoolboy look. Young male models are under a lot of pressure to be thin."
Dr John Morgan, an eating disorders specialist who has written a self-help book for men with eating disorders, The Invisible Man, warned that the trend for skinny male models could cause young men to develop a negative body"

5. Zoeyjane -
Yes, there's been an increase in the past decade for men with eating disorders and body dysmorphic disorder. In the US, it can be assumed that about 10% of tween to mid twenty year olds do or have had an eating disorder, interestingly, something like 3% of those are now men.

Also interesting is that men tend to be more extreme than women in their rituals - exercise harder and longer, fast for longer periods, 'walk off the pain' and binge more food in a more rapid manner. Yet the concept of men having eating disorders is still looked at as very off the wall.

The double standard is frightening and chauvinist - it's more ok and understandable for a girl to do this to herself, but a boy, he's stronger than that, apparently.

6. Yahoo! Music User -
By coincidence, NPR's Bryant Park Project today posted a live version of Lucy at the Gym.

http://www.npr.org/blogs/bryantpark/2008/02/you_can_name_jill_sobules_band.html

7. ThomasH -
Well, I have been thinking about this and it's a tough call. Yahoo Music User has some great points about reaping the consequences of your actions. I guess I still do feel some sympathy for them since I see them as ill - as in delusional. These, mostly, young girls are not in a rational state of mind. Yeah, it's up to you if you want to self destruct, but I still hate to see the suffering they cause for themselves and others.

Jill, I know you write about WW-II. Do you know about the history of the swatika? It's an ancient symbol that had a positive meaning until it was appropriated by the Nazis. Even in the early twentieth century, the swastika was still a symbol with positive connotations. For instance, the swastika was a common decoration that often adorned cigarette cases, postcards, coins, and buildings. During World War I, the swastika could even be found on the shoulder patches of the American 45th Division and on the Finnish air force until after World War II. But, look at things now - it's a symbol of tyranny and genocide.

I know it;s a stretch, but it's the same thing with Lucy. People project their own meaning onto it and for this sad group of anorexics, they have twisted the message so that it fits with their own rationalizations.

8. Hippie Mama -
The thing I found most startling about the YouTube video was that the majority of girls in it could pass as models or Hollywood stars. The line between eating-disorder thin and "celebrity" thin is becoming nearly indistinguishable. :-(

9. Yahoo! Music User -
it is no tthat bad actually most of them are hot

10. Yahoo! Music User -
personally, i would love to look like most of the girls in this video. i know people will critisize this comment and tell me i'm crazy but i don't care. the girls at :56 and 1:08 are damn near close to perfect.

11. JessicaL -
actually, im happy for these girls. they look hot. guys love them and girls wanna be them. its a simple as that. who wouldnt want to be skinny and coveted

12. Yahoo! Music User -
Thin is in
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