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Did 'Dancing With The Stars' Insult Lil' Kim?

Posted Tue May 5, 2009 2:29pm PDT by Justin Mathews in Musictoob

Did Bruno go too far when he called Lil' Kim a "tramp?"

Lil' Kim, rapper and Dancing With The Stars contestant, is no stranger to criticism.

But many think judge Bruno Tonioli may have crossed the line Monday night from "tough judge" to just plain "jerk." If you missed it, the comment came after Kim and partner Derek Hough finished an elegant waltz.

Bruno, after saying he thought the other judges' favorable scores were due to "medication," ripped into Kim.

"You try to be a lady, but you're more comfortable being a tramp," said Bruno.

Many across the country were stunned--including Family Law attorney and marital expert Vikki Ziegler. What did the women's advocate and founder of DivorceDating.com have to say for Bruno?

"It was inappropriate and uncalled-for," said Vikki.

"I think he should issue a public apology. I think it sends a really poor message to women. [Lil' Kim is] in a competition, and her outfits, her behavior, are all 'it's a show!' I mean, isn't that what it's about?"

Ziegler explained to Musictoob what Bruno really meant.

"Calling her a 'tramp,' or 'looking like a tramp,' says to...young women, who want to be stars, want to be rappers, that somehow her behavior in a dancing competition evidences a lack of morals. That's what he was trying to say, and I think it was disrespectful and inappropriate."

The second dance of the night for Derek and Lil' Kim was the salsa; a dance that saw the return of what Kim called the "Bionic Booty."

But, perhaps anxious to begin damage control, Bruno gave a standing ovation to the pair as soon as they finished the sizzling Latin number--with not one mention of "unladylike" behavior.

The couple scored three nines, for a total of 27, on the salsa, making Kim one of the longest-running musicians on the show--easily beating out Belinda Carlisle and Chuck Wicks.

 

Musictoob exclusive: See Dancing judge Carrie Ann Inaba try to rap

Musictoob has exclusive, behind-the-scenes video of Dancing With The Stars judge Carrie Ann Inaba showing off her rap skills.

In the video, a promotional clip for Dr. Scholl's For Her, Carrie Ann Inaba introduces her on-set dance partner, then after a "blip" she raps: "Here she is/She's gonna give you some good/dance/shoe/tips!" and throws up a "sign."


 

To be fair, Carrie Ann says she's "obviously not a rapper." Luckily Lil' Kim wasn't there to turn the tables on Inaba and critique her hip-hop skills.    

 

Go to musictoob.com for more ladies and tramps!

792 Comments

121. JudyW -
I was shocked that Lil Kim was voted off also, but I do not think that Bruno's "Tramp" comment was meant to degrade her. He only meant that she was more at ease performing the dances that she could let herself go and have fun. She was good, but as for Ty still being there??? Who knows why.

122. tamika W -
I will not watch the show now that Kim is out of the contest. I was watching the show because she was doing such a great job and she will be missed.

123. Misfit -
No Justice, No Peace! And I'm sticking to that...
Bruno has been dying to see Lil' Kim voted off the entire show. He's come close to disrespect several during the season, but those comments were by far the most disrespectful. It's intolerable and if Lil' Kim doesn't speak out then she's just as guilty! Be the voice Lil' Kim and make it known that you will not be disrespected!

124. mary -
Bruno has been commenting throughout the competition how Lil Kim is a better dancer when she dances in a sexy, provocative way...I think that's what he was alluding to with his comment the other nght but it came out wrong...I honestly don't think he was trying to offend anyone or any race.

125. AndyD -
Bruno didn't say that to insult her, he was tryin to say she's better at the sexy dances then the ones that are more restrained and lady like. Hello! Have you seen Lil Kim's posters and heard her songs? Somehow I think this is one of the nicer things she's been called! He even said he meant it in a nice way. And the medication remark came AFTER Len said Bruno's critiques were the reason he (Len) was on medication so Bruno was going off Len's comment. I don't think this was "degrading" to my fellow women and I'm tired of some women crying foul everytime they take something the wrong way! They make the rest of us look bad!

126. Micah -
Bruno's wordplay flopped once again and regardless of the joking manner it was rude and stupid. You could tell he realized it too. Just because she has been seen a certain way due to her oozing sexy persona doesnt mean she's a ho. All you simplistic people out there who make such assumptions are the same people that overgeneralize about rap music and black people. Overall lil'kim got the shaft where "contest meets competitiion." She was a great dancer and evolved greatly. Ty Murray living is proof that the dancing doesn't really get you further...he was no better than steve O or Woz, just has a popular girlfriend and a good old boy image. Talk about wack! What a tool.

127. country girl from the gap -
I really dont think that Bruno was trying to be rude, he runs his mouth faster than he should with this kind of result.No Lil Kim should not be off and Chuck should not, face it Jewel your man cant dance Ty should have been gone long ago.So all fans need to vote!

128. Yahoochic -
Dance in general has a class of it's own......it's of classical culture and the word "Tramp" had no business there.....Bruno was out of line and certainly gave dance a bitter taste.....he should suck it up and publically apoligize to Kim no matter of her background, culture or color.....Do the right thing Bruno....no one on here can assume he meant anything other than what he said....he referred to nothing in the way of a song, movie or person....so it came out and was taken just as he said it....yes we all say things without thinking at times...but be of a nature that would right the wrong. As for her going home....it's not the judges....it's the voting fans who for the most part know absolutley nothing about dance...sit back folks and enjoy the drama...it's called TV entertainment and gives us something to blog about the next day....look around....here we are.....and I would love to see Len ride a bull...he sure talks enough of it *LOL* yet he does know his stuff old or not.....Dance on!

129. Jacquie B -
The comment was truly uncalled for....as are many of Bruno's comments. Problem is that none of these 'starts' say anything about it. They try to laugh it off just as lil' kim did. On another note: the fact that she is gone just shows that the audience vote counts for too much. I think Ty Murray is an awesome person, but not so much a dancer and he should have gone home last night. However, listen to the judges comments to him the past two weeks and you hear how rude and condescending they are to him. They invited him on the show then crucify him because he isn't the best and his fans are keeping him on. Get new judges and revamp the scoring!

130. Yahoo! Music User -
For those of you commenting about Bruno, perhaps you should educate yourselves slightly about his credentials before opening your pie-holes about something you obviously know nothing about. Below is Bruno's bio:

Bruno Tonioli (born 25 November 1955) is a choreographer and TV personality, who presently appears as a judge on the hit shows Strictly Come Dancing for BBC TV (UK) and its American adaptation, Dancing with the Stars for ABC TV in the U.S. Bruno has become widely known for his jubilant comments and critiques after couples' performances on both of these shows. Additionally, Bruno co-created and appeared on the BBC talent show, DanceX, as well as its American adaptation, Dance War: Bruno vs. Carrie Ann.

Bruno has worked extensively in the music business, choreographing videos, stage shows and tours for many artists, including Tina Turner, Sting, Elton John, The Rolling Stones, Freddie Mercury, Boy George, and Duran Duran. His close association with Bananarama produced many videos from Venus to Movin' On.

In the early eighties, Bruno was a leading member of the Paris based company La Grande Eugene; he then joined the Lyndsay Kemp Company. He worked extensively as a freelance dancer — including appearing in Elton John’s “I'm Still Standing” video — before starting his career as choreographer working with Pamela Stephenson on Not the Nine O'Clock News.

In January 2008, ABC premiered Dance War: Bruno vs. Carrie-Ann. On the show, despite losing the first two elimination weeks, Bruno’s team went on to win the show, earning a contract with Hollywood Records.

Bruno’s motion picture credits include: Ella Enchanted, The Gathering Storm, Little Voice, Dancin' thru the Dark, Enigma, The Parole Officer, and What a Girl Wants. His television film credits include: Miss Marple The Body in the Library, Blonde Bombshell, Scarlet Pimpernel and The Bare Necessities. Theatre credits include; La Vie Parisienne, Godspell and Steve Coogan’s show The Man Who Thinks He's It.

Additionally, Bruno’s other television credits include: Ab Fab (2003), French & Saunders Christmas Special, The Tony Ferrino Phenomenon (winner of the silver rose at Montreaux 1997), Ghosts of Oxford Street, The BRIT Awards (1988, 1990, 1991), many Top of the Pops, three Royal Variety Performance shows, Miss World (1998-1999), and the Australian edition of Dancing with the Stars as a guest judge.

In the U.S., Bruno has appeared on numerous talk show programs, including Larry King Live, The Tonight Show with Jay Leno, The Bonnie Hunt Show, Jimmy Kimmel Live, The View, Live with Regis & Kelly, Rachael Ray, and The Soup.

Born in Ferrara, Italy, Bruno is fluent in English, Spanish, French, and Italian.[1]

131. Karen -
I don't believe Bruno meant his comment as an insult. He trips over himself all the time. And he did sort of apologize at the time. I didn't enjoy watching Lil' Kim myself and her facial expressions were annoying to me but she shouldn't have gone before Ty. He just doesn't have what it takes to compete with those who are left. We can be sure he will be gone next week. Just remember that it's the fan votes that make the difference. So that's what kept him in!

132. Terry -
Its what most white men think of black women,from Justin Timberlake,Enimen,Bruno..Blacks always learn after they get insulted or hurt by these closet racist.

133. Yahoo! Music User -
Terry A,
Glad to see you're not a closet racist. Your just a regular racist.

134. Grant -
I am just not getting this results crap.....Ty Murray has zero rhythm, no personality and is close to one of the worst dancers they have had on the show. How does this stiff beat out Lil Kim? I agree with the other comments...Kim has been very gracious, sweet and a "real" dancer. To all you people crying cause she was called a tramp because she is black...GET OVER IT. Bruno is a clown, doesn't know what he is saying half the time...She got booted because not enough of you voted for her.

135. Pitchwedge -
Everything in dance competitions is about portraying a charector and Bruno was referring to the fact that Lil Kim shines more in dances like the Argentine Tango where her charector is a prostitute. I like the comment from I ASK..."when I seen that"....lol.

136. KC -
I have watched every season of Dancing and I don't feel he meant anything insulting or hateful. I believe that he is speaking of a persona that she has created for herself in her life outside of dancing. The word tramp may have been a bit harsh but I don't think he meant it in a hurtful way

137. Vicky -
This girl gets everything she deserves, she does come across as a tramp. I don't think Bruno meant any harm in it when he said it. But in all reality, he hit the nail on the head. Why not send her back to prison. As for why shes gone and Ty isn't. Fan votes has a lot to do with it, and you can bet all of the JEWEL fans are also now voting for Ty..

138. Yahoochic -
In response to "Yahoo Music Lover" in regards to my "piehole"...I have taken, taught and judged dance for roughly 23 years at local, state and national levels and at no time was there a place for the word "Tramp".....Bruno can have a rap sheet from here to Hades and back and I am impressed with that with his accomplishments...but not with his comment......Period

139. Yahoo! Music User -
Yahoochic,
Sorry, I wasn't talking about you. I was talking about the people who were saying they'd like to see Bruno try to dance, because he doesn't know anything about it.

140. mary -
In response to yahoo music lover about the racist comment...let's not make this into a racial thing...It's not...
Lil Kim (as a person) has danced in a sexy, provacative way since day one of the show AND Bruno has been commenting on her sexy dancing style since the beginning of the season...why the big hoopla now that he called her a tramp? he choice of words could have been better but let's face she has danced like that all season and he has alluded to it all season!
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