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Rock The Hall--And The Vote

Posted Thu Jan 15, 2009 1:05pm PST by Billy Altman in Stop The Presses!

They've just announced the inductions for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame's Class of 2009, and as always, the list of honorees includes a few no-brainers as well as a few head-scratchers.

The only boilerplate "ground rule" for eligibility in the performer's category is that it must be at least 25 years since your debut recording, and since, unlike say, a sports Hall of Fame where statistical standards can be used to assist voters in their assessments, the Rock Hall voting process is a fairly nebulous one. And I know from personal experience, since I'm among the 600 or so "music professionals" who votes.

The nominees this year, in alphabetical order were: Jeff Beck; Chic; Wanda Jackson; Little Anthony & the Imperials; Metallica; Run D.M.C; the Stooges; War; and Bobby Womack.

Of the nine, five--guitarist Beck, doo-woppers Little Anthony & the Imperials, thrashers Metallica, rappers Run D.M.C. and r'n'ber Womack--have been elected as performers, with rockabilly vocalist Jackson to be inducted in the "Early Influence" category. (Additionally, former Elvis Presley accompanists Bill Black (bass), and D.J. Fontana (drums), along with Southern soul keyboardist Spooner Oldham, are being inducted in the non-voted upon "Sideman" category). 

While I'll respectfully keep my own vote private--voters pick five, in order of preference--I will say the only ones I voted for that didn't get in were punk pioneers the Stooges (and let me note that my vote was cast well before the sad news last week that their guitarist Ron Asheton had passed away). But I'm probably most satisfied that Little Anthony & the Imperials finally got in, and that Wanda Jackson is finally being, as it were, "semi"-inducted. That's because, as more time goes by and we get further and further down that 25-year rule slope, more older artists who haven't yet been duly recognized for their achievements in increasingly bygone eras will be less likely to get nominated, let alone elected. And unless the Rock Hall establishes some kind of Veteran's Committee a la the Baseball Hall of Fame, that trend may well continue. 

More problematic, of course, are artists like Jeff Beck, who, like Eric Clapton and Jimmy Page, has now been elected as a solo artist in addition to being inducted as a member of the seminal '60s band the Yardbirds. Plenty of precedence for this, of course: For example, John Lennon, Paul McCartney, and George Harrison went in as Beatles and as solos, Curtis Mayfield as a member of the Impressions and a solo, Neil Young as a Buffalo Springfielder and a solo, and (my favorite) Paul Simon as half of Simon & Garfunkel and by himself. And Eric Clapton, if I'm not mistaken, has the hall of fame record for being voted in three times (Yardbirds, Cream and solo). 

Much as I think Jeff Beck is one of the greatest and most influential rock 'n' rollers of all time, it does seem to me that once a musician gets voted in, either as a part of a group or as a solo artist, that should be the end of it. I'm not holding my breath for any big rule change, though. Especially since Halls of Fame of any sort aren't exactly the kinds of places where you check your ego at the door; they're more the places you get them stamped.

3235 Comments

1. __A_YAHOO_USER__ -
So the stooges did not make it? Big surprise.

Meh, as it stands, the RARHOF is still a craphole. It really wouldn't surprise me if this RARHOF continues its trend, its not a real representative of good/influential artists, in part due to its low # of nominees, let alone inductees, its conservative voters.

Real music doesn't need a hall to honor it though, so its cool. Real music stays with you and those who listen to it.

2. Johnny Bacardi -
As long as Marc Bolan/T.Rex, Faces, the Monkees, Todd Rundgren, Randy Newman, Harry Nilsson, Alice Cooper (group and/or solo), King Crimson, Yes, Dr. John, Grand Funk Railroad, Jethro Tull, Captain Beefheart, Tim Buckley, Chicago and the Turtles, to name but a few, remain outside looking in because of condescending prejudice and ignorance, the RnR Hall of Fame will always remain an empty, invalid testament to hidebound groupthink and mendacity. Can you tell I get irate about this injustice?

3. brian b -
i thought eric clapton went in for derek and the dominos

4. MassachusettsMama -
What ever happened to the Moody Blues? Their sound in the late 60s and 70s was technologically a break through, not to mention a real document of the times people were living in. doesnt that count for anything or did they not kiss up to the right people?

5. lohas -
the HOF is a joke because half of it isn't even rock. Since when is rap considered rock? It's all a joke anyway, who goes to Cleveland to visit it anyway.

6. Rich P -
KISS still deserves their spot in the Hall. They ruled the 70s and they are still going strong to this day. I feel like the only way they will get in is when one of the founding members dies. And that will be never. KISS is immortal. Sucks that the people who run the hall are biased [profane]s who will probably induct nsync before KISS. What a joke.

7. Paul K -
Biggest r&rhof snub ever?

That would, of course, have to be Rush - one of the greatest and most influential bands around. And they're still around, creating great new music, after 35 years.

8. mrcat149 -
when are they going to realize that Rap is not rock and roll. It is nothing more than someone who has no singing talent, who talks the words. If they want a rap hall of fame let them build one and fill it full of nonsense.

9. spaceman -
Madonna is in...and Rush is not. Nuff said

10. Rickster -
Rock and roll? How do rappers get in there?

11. Cheese -
ARE you kidding me?? Jethro Tull??? freeking flutes do not belong in a ROCK N ROLL museum. i bet both bacardi and purple are some of those people who say that bands sell out when they go to big labels instead of staying on the indi circuit...

12. vikingsfan3 -
I can't believe Metallicas been around for 25 years, I AM GETTING OLD!

13. Dan J -
Its the only thing in cleveland

14. crowefan -
Metallica is a joke

15. Missyloo -
The Stooges didn't get in?!?!?!?!
One question though....
How did a rapper get in there?
Still...
The Stooges didn't get it?!?!?!?

16. joe blow -
Really??? The Rock and Roll hall of fame???? The only people that care are the people (like me) who wis they could be a rock star..... Rock and Roll was Elvis, The Beatles, The Stones... and more contemporly, U2......

17. Bugs B -
U SAID it Matthew C

18. One F -
Three thoughts:

The continued snub of women in the Hall is down right disgusting!

Maybe the RRHF should take a page from baseball's Hall....if you're not inducted after so many times, you're off te list! I mean, how many times did it Skynyrd before they got in? 11? 12?

With fewer and fewer new acts deserving induction, we can only hope that the judges will start revisiting so many of the deserving acts that have been passed over!

19. Goldie -
Little Anthony should have been in the first group. Anyone who has heard him sing --even in his oldest years--knows that. But what about the Moody Blues. There own genre, mellotron licious; and, how 'bout our arena rock heroes, Journey, REO, and Styx; I live in cleveland, been to to the Hall twice--and I'll never go again because like everyone says, if you're not eclectic to the point of being obscure, too often, you are summarily dismissed--which i would do with 60% of the current Hall members.

20. Scrappy -
J.GIELS anyone? the hall is a sham.
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