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Coldplagiarism? Say It Ain't So, Joe!

Posted Fri Dec 5, 2008 3:40pm PST by Lyndsey Parker in Video Ga Ga
Back in June, Coldplay were accused of plagiarism by Brooklyn indie-rockers Creaky Boards, who claimed that the title track to Coldplay's Viva La Vida album bore an uncanny similarity to one of their own songs--a song ironically titled "The Songs I Didn't Write." Creaky Boards even went so far as to allege--in a somewhat whiny, self-released viral video--that Coldplay frontman Chris Martin got the idea for "Viva La Vida" when he attended one of their shows at the 2007 CMJ Music Festival:

While there was admittedly some resemblance between the two tunes, nothing came of this. Coldplay went about their lives, racking up Grammy nominations and selling millions of records, and Creaky Boards simply creaked back into obscurity. But now a more prominent artist, guitar virtusoso Joe Satriani, is lobbying the same sort of charges at the Britrockers. Satriani has just filed a copyright-infringement lawsuit against Coldplay in Los Angeles federal court, and he may have a better case than Creaky Boards did.

Before you continue reading, check out this other video comparing and contrasting "Viva" with Satriani's 2004 instrumental, "If I Could Fly":

Now, first of all, there's no denying the similarity--it's a lot stronger than the one between "Viva" and the Creaky Boards song (that mashup at the end of this video makes a particularly convincing point). The songs in fact sound so much alike, if we'd wandered into a Satriani concert and heard him noodling away during "If I Could Fly" onstage, we'd admittedly mistake it for a guitar-wanky "Viva La Vida" cover.

Of course, the similarity could be a coincidence--and therefore the sonic resemblance isn't enough for Satriani to collect the "any and all profits" he is seeking in a jury trial against Coldplay. Another crucial aspect of his case is whether or not Coldplay had the opportunity to steal the song.

In the case of Coldplay vs. Creaky Boards, it was kind of difficult to believe Chris Martin would randomly pop up at some unknown band's CMJ showcase (Chris publicly denied he attended the gig in question). So it was almost impossible for Creaky Boards to prove that Coldplay had had ample opportunity to hear (and subsequently plagiarize) "The Songs I Didn't Write." But the Satriani album on which "If I Could Fly" originally appeared, Is There Love In Space?, came out four years ago on Epic, a major label...so it is more feasible that the members of Coldplay did have some chance to be exposed to it.

Although, of course, it's also kind of hard to imagine that Chris Martin lounges around his London mansion with Gwyneth, Apple, and Moses, attentively listening to Joe Satriani jams with notepad in hand. But hey, you never know.

Anyway, whether or not Coldplay are guilty as charged, they certainly were aware of Satriani's accusation before the lawsuit was officially filed this week. Just wait for the 3:30 mark in the video below for Chris Martin's sly mention of a mystery man whose name rhymes with "Moe Batriani"...along with his impassioned insistence that "Viva La Vida"'s resemblance to any song, by any artist living or dead, is purely coincidental:

1106 Comments

1. __A_YAHOO_USER__ -
Meh. Call it an elaborate cover. so ellaborate, it can be original! Like Led Zeppelin. Problem resolved!

2. Anna C -
coldplay and plagerism?who'dathought? -- what's the big suprise ? this,the most unoriginal of groups, basically spends it's time aping the sounds of bands like u2,radiohead,joy division,and other groups infinitely more talented and creative than themselves -- when will the public recognize thier music for the watered-down and soulless mess it is

3. Nicholas -
Well, I think it is egregious to state that music has been plagiarized from 10 to 20 notes which are not even the main portion or a repetitive theme of that musical piece. Now to argue that the idea or the song Coldplay did write with original words from a section of music may be worthy of debate. However, intent and actually proving the notes had been heard in that order before would need to be proved. Now let’s get down to the bottom line; are we going to be sue happy if 15 notes are the same or 10 , 5 , 2? Will we see a plethora of lawsuits based upon a finite number of notes (there are only 7 basic notes not including sharps or flats)? Let music with or without lyrics rest on its own merit and popularity. With thousands of years of human history behind us what work, idea, writing, music, architecture, etc… hasn’t been built upon someone else’s labor?

4. hebern -
many articles appearing to defend Martin say that Coldplay has nevere even heard of Joe Satriani...look here at this official VH1 2002 interview with Martin and he clearly mentions Joe Satriani in this article with VH!

Read here....http://www.vh1.com/artists/news/1456997/08122002/coldplay.jhtml

Really strange and very shameful for Coldplay I think!!!!!!!!!!

5. hebern -
many articles appearing to defend Martin say that Coldplay has nevere even heard of Joe Satriani...look here at this official VH1 2002 interview with Martin and he clearly mentions Joe Satriani in this article with VH!

Read here....http://www.vh1.com/artists/news/1456997/08122002/coldplay.jhtml

Really strange and very shameful for Coldplay I think!!!!!!!!!!

6. Adam -
Viva La Vida isn't even the best song on the album, shame on them if they did copy the song, which it sure sounds like they did, but the non-singles on the album are great.

7. JJ -
Three notes? There's only twelve to choose from. It' not the first time those notes have been played in that order. Nor will it be the last. Big fan of Joe's, but c'mon! Joe's always wanted to be a huge star. Now he looks desperate. However, Coldplay is lame. Can he sue the for that instead?

8. RJMac -
Woulda bee easier for Coldplay just to do a cover of "If I Could Fly"- assuming they have a guitarist with 1/10 of Satch's talent.

DOubt it, though.........

9. Jingleman -
These dorks stole Joe's song! To me it's a slam dunk, the guy wrote the lyrics to Joe's music. Do you want to calculate the odds of a pop band putting the same 12 notes together - with the same phrasing? The tempo is even the same. Coldplay is a joke, and they can't even come up with their own ideas.

10. Yahoo! Music User -
0_0 honestly. There is no great music without stealing. Good musicians create. Great musicians steal. Awesome musicians do both.

11. Molly -
Mehh, really, I don't think it was plagiarism, it sounds similar but not exactly the same. If it was like what happened with Vanilla Ice, David Bowie and Feddy Mercury where the tune of Ice, Ice Baby and Under Pressure is exactly the same, then I think of it as plagiarism. The two songs just sound similar, big deal, many songs sound similar. I still have faith in Coldplay.

12. Clam Happy -
All three songs sound like they were written by a 6th grader. They should all be sued for damaging my ears with an audio ice pick.

13. Yahoo! Music User -
I don't see why such a big name artist would take such a risk to plagiarize...but the songs do sound eerily alike.

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14. Tornado Chaser -
With all due respect to both Satriani and Coldplay - the melody and chord progression in question is pretty simple, even sophmoric. In that vein, I think it's reasonable that two people came up with the same tune. In fact, look back another 20, 40, 80 years and I'd bet you'd find another "original" song with a very similar tune.

15. trane332002 -
As a songwriter, myself, i can say without a shadow of a doubt that coldplay is lifting songs. Being inspired is one thing, but the same chords and progressions, with only the words changed? Smells like a lawsuit to me.

16. Isadagreat -
wow..
i really don't know what to say.

17. yahoo sucks -
Cold play are nothing more than no talent RIPP OFF artist. hope the get sued for everything the have earned

18. Yahoo! Music User -
Coinky dink???

19. Sean -
It is difficult. Satriani does have a case. Martin may not have any idea who he is, but I am sure his guitarist does. The question is whether or not it was purposely copied or whether it was an "osmosis" of sorts. Musicians listen to all kinds of music and so it is not impossible that that other bands ideas sort of seep in.

The fact that you can put Satriani's riff under the original song and see how it matches is a bit damning though. I think he has a case.

The other example is shaky at best.

20. Robert -
It's too bad Satriani and Coldplay didn't just collaborate on this song from the beginning: That solo guitar actually makes that COldplay song sound kinda awesome. Weird.
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