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Coldplagiarism? Say It Ain't So, Joe!

Posted Fri Dec 5, 2008 3:40pm PST by Lyndsey Parker in Video Ga Ga
Back in June, Coldplay were accused of plagiarism by Brooklyn indie-rockers Creaky Boards, who claimed that the title track to Coldplay's Viva La Vida album bore an uncanny similarity to one of their own songs--a song ironically titled "The Songs I Didn't Write." Creaky Boards even went so far as to allege--in a somewhat whiny, self-released viral video--that Coldplay frontman Chris Martin got the idea for "Viva La Vida" when he attended one of their shows at the 2007 CMJ Music Festival:

While there was admittedly some resemblance between the two tunes, nothing came of this. Coldplay went about their lives, racking up Grammy nominations and selling millions of records, and Creaky Boards simply creaked back into obscurity. But now a more prominent artist, guitar virtusoso Joe Satriani, is lobbying the same sort of charges at the Britrockers. Satriani has just filed a copyright-infringement lawsuit against Coldplay in Los Angeles federal court, and he may have a better case than Creaky Boards did.

Before you continue reading, check out this other video comparing and contrasting "Viva" with Satriani's 2004 instrumental, "If I Could Fly":

Now, first of all, there's no denying the similarity--it's a lot stronger than the one between "Viva" and the Creaky Boards song (that mashup at the end of this video makes a particularly convincing point). The songs in fact sound so much alike, if we'd wandered into a Satriani concert and heard him noodling away during "If I Could Fly" onstage, we'd admittedly mistake it for a guitar-wanky "Viva La Vida" cover.

Of course, the similarity could be a coincidence--and therefore the sonic resemblance isn't enough for Satriani to collect the "any and all profits" he is seeking in a jury trial against Coldplay. Another crucial aspect of his case is whether or not Coldplay had the opportunity to steal the song.

In the case of Coldplay vs. Creaky Boards, it was kind of difficult to believe Chris Martin would randomly pop up at some unknown band's CMJ showcase (Chris publicly denied he attended the gig in question). So it was almost impossible for Creaky Boards to prove that Coldplay had had ample opportunity to hear (and subsequently plagiarize) "The Songs I Didn't Write." But the Satriani album on which "If I Could Fly" originally appeared, Is There Love In Space?, came out four years ago on Epic, a major label...so it is more feasible that the members of Coldplay did have some chance to be exposed to it.

Although, of course, it's also kind of hard to imagine that Chris Martin lounges around his London mansion with Gwyneth, Apple, and Moses, attentively listening to Joe Satriani jams with notepad in hand. But hey, you never know.

Anyway, whether or not Coldplay are guilty as charged, they certainly were aware of Satriani's accusation before the lawsuit was officially filed this week. Just wait for the 3:30 mark in the video below for Chris Martin's sly mention of a mystery man whose name rhymes with "Moe Batriani"...along with his impassioned insistence that "Viva La Vida"'s resemblance to any song, by any artist living or dead, is purely coincidental:

1106 Comments

121. Chirs C -
Desperate?

I think if I had the slightest notion that a band who is much more popular than me ripping off my hard work... I'd be all over them. It's not publicity... it's common decency. Joes works his A$$ off and does not deserve to be stolen from. (a REAL cold play) Call him up... "can we use this chord progression, liked the melody, thought we could take it in our direction... what's your price." Not hard... likely not a problem... likely a simple 'melody by Joe Satriani' in the liner notes (that no one even sees as most music is downloaded).

These are not similarities... did you catch the video? The two played side by side are as if Satch was playing the guitar in the background.

Best thing Chris Martin ever did was show up on the Extras episode. He sort of reminds me alot more of that character now with the lie about "I've never heard of him" when a few years ago he referenced him.

Coldplay is just that... played and cold.

122. Jesse M -
If Coldplay have more intelligence than originality, they'll settle out of court with Satch on this one and give him a damned good share of the royalties for this song and the album on which it appears.

123. mm -
mm, what can i say.. i'm an outsider tho. mm, at least they're productive. please don't let me start to put a list here..on how many brit band that are considered "big".., but only 1 or 2 songs frm their ENTIRE albums are familiar (with the outsider i mean).these "big" bands repeatedly/their fans repeatedly chanting or told on forum bla bla bla on how great they're..but reality check... :X

124. JP -
Hey trane... as a "songwriter" yourself, you ARE entitled to an opinion, but not a judgment! Also... you know as well as any musician, which I am... degreed, trained and practicing for over 20 years.... that in art, literature, and music there are no compositions that are entirely original. We have all spent our lives listening to, and being influenced by others' music. You can't escape it. The best and most honest will tell that we all "borrow" from others. The true issue here is did they intentionally rip off J.S., or did they borrow a short riff, and embellish it, making it their own, integrating it into their vision for their musical concept. Whether they did or didn't, it still makes J.S. look a little desparate... c'mon, live and let live. And as for the "ice pick" sufferer above... if ya don't like it, don't listen to it... sheesh!

125. DaLaconic -
no original rock music has been made for at least 30 years

126. Mike T -
Coldplay and Satriani should re-record the song Viva la Vida together, release it as a single and split the profits. The mash up of Viva la Vida and If I Could Fly was sweet. Way better than either song on it's own. May sound ridiculous but it could work out. Artists invite in other artists to remix their songs all the time. Then again there is the lawsuit and animosity to over come.

127. Yahoo! Music User -
Jerks.

128. jen -
no body owns a riff. music is free. everyone rips off music from somewhere. i believe in sharing riffs. let go. music cannot be owned. music is an expression of the soul, of an emotion. just because a riff was previously used, does not mean the emotion is the same in the music.

129. Angie -
Big deal...three notes match. The rest is a standard chord progression that you can probably find in a hundred songs and the melody over them is a simple, unoriginal one...in both cases.

130. sam -
well, damn it, now I want to listen to this guitar player more, he sounds awesome!

131. alan -
SO WHAT......so a few notes sound the same big deal its not the end of the world...yet. its the "all mine" complex, greed its what drives the world. its not like hes gonna go broke with this hell he will spend more money sueing coldplay.

132. A H -
How can those be coincidental? I'm sorry. No one coincidentally comes up with the same thing AFTER someone else.

If they had come up with the songs at the same time, then I could understand. Just like Newton and Leibniz you came up with calculus at the same time.

The band had ample time to have been influenced by this music REGARDLESS of how mainstream they are. We aren't talking about the average person who just listens to the radio. These are music professionals who probably hear a wide variety of music and go to a wide variety of shows.

133. supawoopig -
...but coldplay sucks...and satch does not...coldplay should be stealing from radiohead and panic at the disco...even tho im sure they already have.

134. Mike -
I don't know if you will ever read this, but if you listen to 'Jape-floating' It bears a striking resemblance to 'Coldplays-violet hill' Ive been saying they're thieves for a year!

135. Bernard V -
Yep def a ripoff...the 1st time I heard it I thought I had heard it b4...lol

136. Julio -
First of all if you are a guy listing to this crap, you are probably GAY! I had never heard of this band til i heard them at work and in all honesty, i thought it was U2!! Kinda like hottie & the blow fish, trying to sound like Pearl Jam!
The prove is in the pudding!
They like some rappers, take beats or styles from someone else and use them, alot of people who dont listen to music or are teens or kids, have not heard some of the beats or riffs used before!
An Artist in music or Art , should come up with original or maybe improve on past works!
COLD PLAY be yourself and keep playing your music to your Gay fans!!! We will see if you stay as popular as you are!! Doubt it!!

137. Michael V -
Joe has more talent in his bowel movements than coldplay has in their wildest dreams.
GET 'EM SATCH!!!

138. A H -
Also, this is the same deal as Vanilla Ice and Queen's song. He changed one not of Queen's song "Under Pressure" to get out of it being exactly the same.

Sorry, I'm not buying it. And for ALAN number 138, I answer your SO WHAT with how would you feel if you made your living off of something and someone came along and took it from you because they are popular and that makes it OK. I'm sure you'd not be happy.

139. Nani -
Can´t listen to any similarity. This song is awfull, full of bull.... Keep up Coldplay!

140. keith -
slam dunk in my eyes/ears they stole the song
maybe not on purpose but i wouldnt doubt there guitarist listens to joe and thought he came up with the riff on his own.
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