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Coldplagiarism? Say It Ain't So, Joe!

Posted Fri Dec 5, 2008 3:40pm PST by Lyndsey Parker in Video Ga Ga
Back in June, Coldplay were accused of plagiarism by Brooklyn indie-rockers Creaky Boards, who claimed that the title track to Coldplay's Viva La Vida album bore an uncanny similarity to one of their own songs--a song ironically titled "The Songs I Didn't Write." Creaky Boards even went so far as to allege--in a somewhat whiny, self-released viral video--that Coldplay frontman Chris Martin got the idea for "Viva La Vida" when he attended one of their shows at the 2007 CMJ Music Festival:

While there was admittedly some resemblance between the two tunes, nothing came of this. Coldplay went about their lives, racking up Grammy nominations and selling millions of records, and Creaky Boards simply creaked back into obscurity. But now a more prominent artist, guitar virtusoso Joe Satriani, is lobbying the same sort of charges at the Britrockers. Satriani has just filed a copyright-infringement lawsuit against Coldplay in Los Angeles federal court, and he may have a better case than Creaky Boards did.

Before you continue reading, check out this other video comparing and contrasting "Viva" with Satriani's 2004 instrumental, "If I Could Fly":

Now, first of all, there's no denying the similarity--it's a lot stronger than the one between "Viva" and the Creaky Boards song (that mashup at the end of this video makes a particularly convincing point). The songs in fact sound so much alike, if we'd wandered into a Satriani concert and heard him noodling away during "If I Could Fly" onstage, we'd admittedly mistake it for a guitar-wanky "Viva La Vida" cover.

Of course, the similarity could be a coincidence--and therefore the sonic resemblance isn't enough for Satriani to collect the "any and all profits" he is seeking in a jury trial against Coldplay. Another crucial aspect of his case is whether or not Coldplay had the opportunity to steal the song.

In the case of Coldplay vs. Creaky Boards, it was kind of difficult to believe Chris Martin would randomly pop up at some unknown band's CMJ showcase (Chris publicly denied he attended the gig in question). So it was almost impossible for Creaky Boards to prove that Coldplay had had ample opportunity to hear (and subsequently plagiarize) "The Songs I Didn't Write." But the Satriani album on which "If I Could Fly" originally appeared, Is There Love In Space?, came out four years ago on Epic, a major label...so it is more feasible that the members of Coldplay did have some chance to be exposed to it.

Although, of course, it's also kind of hard to imagine that Chris Martin lounges around his London mansion with Gwyneth, Apple, and Moses, attentively listening to Joe Satriani jams with notepad in hand. But hey, you never know.

Anyway, whether or not Coldplay are guilty as charged, they certainly were aware of Satriani's accusation before the lawsuit was officially filed this week. Just wait for the 3:30 mark in the video below for Chris Martin's sly mention of a mystery man whose name rhymes with "Moe Batriani"...along with his impassioned insistence that "Viva La Vida"'s resemblance to any song, by any artist living or dead, is purely coincidental:

1106 Comments

141. Steve B -
Coldplay lacks the talent obviously to do it on their own. Only an obsessive Coldplay fan would deny that this is blatant theivery. It's bad enough when these self-proclaimed hip-hop artists 'sample' sections from hugely more creative and successful older songs when they don't have their own creativity to do it, but when another artist downright copies note for note in the same chord progression and timing from another song.....and calls it their own composition.......WHAT A JOKE!!! Time to start burning Coldplay CDs.

142. Mark -
This guy should get over it. Coldplay uses originality. Hes just angry because they got inspired by him. Oh well cry me a river

143. Blondie -
How exactlly can they say Coldplay stole the song from them, when no one knows when Joe's song was made , whos to say he isnt just trying to get 15 minutes of fame by saying his song was out first.

144. Julia -
yeah wow......those songs DO sound a lot alike.

uh ohhh =/

145. chaplain -
I went to that interracial web dating site. It was all 250 pound white blondes looking for ex-convicts to support their coke habits.

146. erik -
All I have to say is these days with the billions of songs that have been wrote through time show me one that hasn't been plagiarized in some way

147. charles h -
Modern song writers have been ripping off classical music riffs for years. Barry Manalow, John Williams, Billy Joel have all ripped off ideas and riffs from classical songs. Stealing riffs is nothing new, but stealing from a modern guitarist is pretty lame.

148. Sara -
Many songs have the same chord progression. I-IV-V-I. Some even have similar melodies. I don't think either of these bands have a case against Coldplay. Because it is not an exact copy. When George Harrison wrote the song "My Sweet Lord" it sounded EXACTLY like the Chiffon's "He's so Fine" right down to the melody and the chords. No one really plays the George Harrison song anymore, and he had to pay thousands of dollars in a lawsuit because the songs were exactly alike. These guys also don't have the lawyers that Coldplay's label has.

149. TaDariusP -
Okay first all calling it plagiarism alittle harsh. People have been coming out with music for years and years...and guess what? chance are someone song will sound will the same. Its note for note; word for word

150. Auctora -
this is hilarous! i hope coldplay gets their ass handed to them, grammy noms taken, everything. their entire career has been a rip off.

151. marc t -
omg ppl stfu already they're bands they get inspired by other bands learn the music industry almost every band has another band for inspiration for their songs...

152. RyanV -
Hell yeah!!! It sounds as if Satch is right playing with them. There is no coincidence about it. That is right on! I knew I couldn't stand Coldplay!!!!!

153. JP -
A H There is some truth to your statement to ALAN... but... J.S. has been playing good music for years, and has not broken into the bigtime... even IF Coldplay borrowed his song (which I don't really think they did) will it make him suddenly famous for his music? Will it change anything? He's made a good living doing what he loves to do, what's one tune? And to all of the Coldplay haters: if you don't like them, don't listen! I'm sure for every one of your favorite artists, there's someone who thinks they SUCK! So get over it, and when you hear them, just turn the dial without the hatred and vitriol!

154. Courtney A -
Satriani just wants money.....

155. tams -
chris' comment on VH1.com on 2002...

VH1: You’re always hinting that maybe this might be the last Coldplay record.

Chris: We’ll wait and see. I sometimes think we’re just a one-hit wonder and that’s it for us. Other times I know that it’s not true. Being in Coldplay is what I live for, and I’d be gutted if people didn’t want us around. This is getting depressing! This is going to be on VH1’s 100 Saddest Stories: the day we gave up because no one liked us. Get Joe Satriani to comment on that!

http://www.vh1.com/artists/news/1456997/08122002/coldplay.jhtml

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He mentions Joe. How can he say he doesn't know him?

156. Precious Tierra -
Wtf? Coldplay rules. This Joe dude is probably just saying all of this crap to get his 15 minutes of fame. He is jealous that Coldplay is doing big. Besides, even if it WAS his song, and even if Coldplay DID copy, he wouldnt get any praise. So leave it alone.

157. whocares -
Coldplay suck....wankers

158. Hoff -
Coldplay....Monkees....what's the diff?
Oh yeah...the Monkees were great!

159. Jennifer P -
I can't stand Coldplay. Every time I hear a new Coldplay song, I think it's something new by U2. Get your own sound. Be your own band. I don't know if they work hard at sounding just like U2 or not, but I find it hard to believe they just happen to sound like one of the biggest, best selling bands in the history of music. My feeling is they're copying U2's sound in order to capitalize on U2's success so they, too, can make money hand over fist. And it seems to be working because people LOVE Coldplay. I just don't get it. I also don't get rewarding a band for ripping off someone else's sound. Why don't we give the Grammys to bands who are truly original, have their own sound and don't try to be someone else?

160. DP -
This is the often unnoticed dark side of the music business. There is a lot of this sort of thing nowadays. You hear little rips here and there of other people's songs in a lot of today's pop music. I've worked with and talked to some producers and writers that intentionally search for obscure music to "get ideas from". Small time indie artists don't have the money or influence to fight larger acts and their multimillion dollar record labels, and the big guys know this. Satriani is by no means obscure to real music fans, but he is obscure to pop music fans. The problem for Coldplay is that he does have the backing to put up a big fight.

Although Satriani has a genuine beef here, Joe is going to have a tough time winning this case because he has to prove that they stole it. That particular melody calls for those chords under it, so coming from a songwriter, it is somewhat possible that Coldplay came up with that on their own. When you layer the songs together though, they are undoubtedly the same, almost as if it was all recorded as one song. Joe used guitar solos, and Coldplay used orchestra hits.

If Coldplay did in fact steal here, it would be very disappointing to me. They've written some great songs in the past, and resorting to this in order to get a "hit for the record" would seriously taint their credibility.
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