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The Top 20 Albums of All Time (For Real)

Posted Mon Jul 28, 2008 3:21pm PDT by Robert of the Radish in The Y! Music Playlist Blog

I completely understand the frustration of "best of lists", and I can assure you that I read hundreds of comments here on the Yahoo Music blogs whenever we post one. Many times our "best album" lists generate thousands of comments. And although many of the remarks are ridiculous, many are valid in a subjective sort of way.

For this playlist I wanted to find the true top 20 albums once and for all, but to do this I needed to clear my mind of all opinion and approach it as a science. My own personal taste did not influence this list in any way. In fact, I would have made many different choices, but the time I put into collecting the data and crunching the numbers leaves no doubt in my mind that this is the most accurate top 20 album list in existence.

To begin with I had to set the parameters, and I have set them as follows:

1. The list is based on the American market - I did this only because I had mounds of detailed data on the American music market at hand- to include the whole world or even Europe would increase the complexity of the analysis greatly - So this is really the "Top 20 Albums of All Time (To Americans)"

2. "Greatest Hits" albums and live albums were not eligible. The idea here was to identify the very best true albums, not compilations that cherry pick the best songs from an artist's career.

3. The following mathematical formula was used:

"Album Staying Power Value + Sales Value + Critical Rating Value + Grammy Award Value"

Now if you wish to argue, I welcome intelligent comment on how to hone the formula further, but please try to control the passionate fan-speak that drives so many of the comments. Remember, the idea is to completely remove your personal opinion from the process.

To offer a bit more detail on the components of the formula:

The initial group of albums selected was based solely on sales. Please know that I believe sales alone are probably the worst measure we have of an album's quality and I will speak to how I addressed this problem in a few. But as a starting point sales made the most sense. Sales are by no means the only measure of a "great album", but without big sales an album doesn't have much footing on which to claim the moniker "greatest". A vote with a dollar is a much stronger indicator than any other.

I looked at the biggest selling albums of all time in America based on actual RIAA data - this produced 71 non-Greatest Hits/Live albums that have all sold over 10 million units. Any of these that sold more than 10 million units received a 1% Sales Multiplier for every 1 million units sold over 10 million.

Sales Value = Sales Multiplier X Staying Power Value

Next, I determined what the Staying Power Value (SPV) was of all 71 albums. To determine Staying Power Value I looked at used CD sales data to determine how well each album's value has held up over time. For example, in the secondary market you can expect to pay around $9.50 for a copy of Rumours by Fleetwood Mac, but you would only pay $1.38 for a copy of Cracked Rear View by Hootie and The Blowfish. The Staying Power Value is important because it shows what the current value of the album is in the marketplace. So it's a good reflection of supply and demand. Rumours sold 19 million copies and Cracked Rear View sold 16 million. Rumours gets more points for selling more units, but even more important than the higher overall sales figures is that people want to hold onto their Fleetwood Mac CD, but don't mind parting with their Hootie CD. SPV captures this. In simple terms, Staying Power Value reflects current supply and demand for each album. *Please note that for double albums we reduced the SPV to align with a standard-length album.

So if we take the previously mentioned SPV of Fleetwood Mac's Rumours album and multiply it by that album's Sales Multiplier of 9% (1% for each million sold over 10 million) we get $10.38. But this only shows us how much people still desire the album + how many have sold at retail.

The next part of the formula takes into account critical acclaim.

I would agree with anyone who says a critical review means nothing, but when you start to see a pattern among the critics the data becomes much more reliable. If ten out of ten reviewers give an album 5 stars chances are good that the album is a winner. Basically the more reviews you average the more reliable the rating.

For the Critical Rating Value I looked at multiple reviews for each album from a diverse cross section of music magazines, newspapers and music review websites to come up with the average review number for each based on a 5 star scale. From these ratings I assigned a Critical Rating Multiplier to each album ranging from 0% to 10%.

So now our formula has factored in critical acclaim making the end result more reliable.

Ratings Value = Sales Value X Rating Multiplier

The final portion of the formula is the Grammy Award Value and it simply looks at how many Grammy Awards each album has won. Our formula already has the voice of the people (Sales Value) and the voice of the critics (Critical Rating Value) so the only missing component is the acclaim each album holds among it's peers. The Grammys are an industry specific award and are the best reflection we have of how the music business itself feels about an album. I would agree that this is the least important of the components in our formula, and as such each Grammy award adds only a .5% bonus. So an album that wins 4 Grammys would receive an extra 2% to it's value. This in my estimation is a fair weighting to give for a Grammy award.

So now I give you The Top 20 Albums of All Time based purely on the analysis provided above and devoid of any personal opinion. If you would like to see the complete analysis you can download the Microsoft Excel version here: (Top Album Analysis.xls).

20. Faith - George Michael

19. Appetite For Destruction - Guns N' Roses

18. Purple Rain - Prince

17. Houses Of The Holy - Led Zeppelin

16. Born In The U.S.A. - Bruce Springsteen

15. Nevermind - Nirvana

14. Van Halen - Van Halen

13. Rumours - Fleetwood Mac

12. The Wall - Pink Floyd

11. The Joshua Tree - U2

10. Metallica - Metallica

9. Led Zeppelin - Led Zeppelin

8. Hotel California - Eagles

7. The White Album - The Beatles

6. Led Zeppelin IV - Led Zeppelin

5. Abbey Road - The Beatles

4. Physical Graffiti - Led Zeppelin

3. Thriller - Michael Jackson

2. Dark Side Of The Moon - Pink Floyd

1. Songs In The Key Of Life - Stevie Wonder

 

8996 Comments

101. Mike -
I don't like every album mentioned on the list, but i do give him kudos for going for an unbiased approach.

102. Joanne -
List seems pretty fair - I too would liked to have seen Journey (with Steve Perry, of course) and AC/DC on there. Michael Jackson is a freak, but that album rocked - could've been #1.

103. Darryl -
You don't have a clue as to what you are talking about. Stevie Wonder #1. GIVE ME A BREAK!!! I don't even know a single song from the album. If it is so great I would think I would have heard of the Album. So, I guess the best movie according to you is Soylent Green.

104. Chico -
Sargeant pepper's lonely hearts club band

105. UPhilMe -
The Eagles Greatest Hits Vol 1 is THE best "selling" album of all time, but did not qualify, but its cool that their Hotel California album made the list. For those who aren't familiar with George Michael of the late 80s, that album was real real real big, so most younger posters wouldn't be aware of how and why it made the list. I think MJ should of been first, but Stevie's album was beyond belief. Llynrd Skynrd doesn't have ONE single great album that would qualify it, in my opinion. Overall, I think this list is fairly accurate.

106. Mrs. Jamaican -
ok, michael jackson sold out everybody in the music industry, how sum hes not #1

107. orch dork -
no BOB DYLAN?????

108. boxerdog -
Wow, there sure are bunch on knuckleheads out there who didn't read his prelude to the list. Thanks for working the numbers man, highly interesting reading. Wow, Stevie Wonder? Didn't see that coming at all...

109. Henndogg -
holy cow. stevie wonder #1? might throw in some sam cooke then, maybe some marvin gaye to round out the top 5.

110. courtney -
haha dan hollman i wanted to say that too but i forgot during my rant. good one.

111. Michael -
From the look of your picture and the "type" of albums you recommend, it is obvious you have no ida what you are talking about. There is MUCH MORE to music than the majority of rock-n-roll crap you promote. Go smoke another one, "dude". Music started WAY before the 70's and there were many awards given to top charted pop singers pre dope scene. Guess you can see that I think your list belongs on toilet tissue.

112. Ilda O -
I am a classics fan. CCR should've been on here WAY before George Michael

113. mamo -
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm............i thought there would be a bit more beatles..........

114. !*~Mystikal~*! -
I'm really surprised there isn't any AC/DC.

115. Big Orange -
Most of y'all are completely missing the point. As he said, personal opinions by INDIVIDUALS didn't count. It's all based on the album has actually performed since it was issued. Sure, they are many albums I liked better than some of these on the list but it's not about my tastes or your tastes, it's about how America liked these great albums. Cultural value would be a good additional criteria but I don't know how you would come up with a rating.

116. Glenn -
The Beatles.

117. Poppa -
So there IS accounting for taste...

118. JoshF -
REM? Really? Whiney white rock is whiney white rock. Ixna astfa. Discount album sales (include nickleback?). Discount grammy nods (rascal flatts?) Eric B and Rakim Paid in Full, Modest Mouse The Lonesome Crowded West, oh or Misfits Static Age.

119. Todd -
uhhh,,WHAM? CMON! they are tha absolute greatest ever! #20 ,,,,please,,and wheres boy george?? NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Zeppelin RULES

120. Rex J -
I believe the bottoms line is total albums sold. Why whitewash it with a formula. Although Micheal jackson is not my favorite he seems to have sold more than anyone else.
Amount of Albums sold should be the bottoms line.
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