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The Top 20 Albums of All Time (For Real)

Posted Mon Jul 28, 2008 3:21pm PDT by Robert of the Radish in The Y! Music Playlist Blog

I completely understand the frustration of "best of lists", and I can assure you that I read hundreds of comments here on the Yahoo Music blogs whenever we post one. Many times our "best album" lists generate thousands of comments. And although many of the remarks are ridiculous, many are valid in a subjective sort of way.

For this playlist I wanted to find the true top 20 albums once and for all, but to do this I needed to clear my mind of all opinion and approach it as a science. My own personal taste did not influence this list in any way. In fact, I would have made many different choices, but the time I put into collecting the data and crunching the numbers leaves no doubt in my mind that this is the most accurate top 20 album list in existence.

To begin with I had to set the parameters, and I have set them as follows:

1. The list is based on the American market - I did this only because I had mounds of detailed data on the American music market at hand- to include the whole world or even Europe would increase the complexity of the analysis greatly - So this is really the "Top 20 Albums of All Time (To Americans)"

2. "Greatest Hits" albums and live albums were not eligible. The idea here was to identify the very best true albums, not compilations that cherry pick the best songs from an artist's career.

3. The following mathematical formula was used:

"Album Staying Power Value + Sales Value + Critical Rating Value + Grammy Award Value"

Now if you wish to argue, I welcome intelligent comment on how to hone the formula further, but please try to control the passionate fan-speak that drives so many of the comments. Remember, the idea is to completely remove your personal opinion from the process.

To offer a bit more detail on the components of the formula:

The initial group of albums selected was based solely on sales. Please know that I believe sales alone are probably the worst measure we have of an album's quality and I will speak to how I addressed this problem in a few. But as a starting point sales made the most sense. Sales are by no means the only measure of a "great album", but without big sales an album doesn't have much footing on which to claim the moniker "greatest". A vote with a dollar is a much stronger indicator than any other.

I looked at the biggest selling albums of all time in America based on actual RIAA data - this produced 71 non-Greatest Hits/Live albums that have all sold over 10 million units. Any of these that sold more than 10 million units received a 1% Sales Multiplier for every 1 million units sold over 10 million.

Sales Value = Sales Multiplier X Staying Power Value

Next, I determined what the Staying Power Value (SPV) was of all 71 albums. To determine Staying Power Value I looked at used CD sales data to determine how well each album's value has held up over time. For example, in the secondary market you can expect to pay around $9.50 for a copy of Rumours by Fleetwood Mac, but you would only pay $1.38 for a copy of Cracked Rear View by Hootie and The Blowfish. The Staying Power Value is important because it shows what the current value of the album is in the marketplace. So it's a good reflection of supply and demand. Rumours sold 19 million copies and Cracked Rear View sold 16 million. Rumours gets more points for selling more units, but even more important than the higher overall sales figures is that people want to hold onto their Fleetwood Mac CD, but don't mind parting with their Hootie CD. SPV captures this. In simple terms, Staying Power Value reflects current supply and demand for each album. *Please note that for double albums we reduced the SPV to align with a standard-length album.

So if we take the previously mentioned SPV of Fleetwood Mac's Rumours album and multiply it by that album's Sales Multiplier of 9% (1% for each million sold over 10 million) we get $10.38. But this only shows us how much people still desire the album + how many have sold at retail.

The next part of the formula takes into account critical acclaim.

I would agree with anyone who says a critical review means nothing, but when you start to see a pattern among the critics the data becomes much more reliable. If ten out of ten reviewers give an album 5 stars chances are good that the album is a winner. Basically the more reviews you average the more reliable the rating.

For the Critical Rating Value I looked at multiple reviews for each album from a diverse cross section of music magazines, newspapers and music review websites to come up with the average review number for each based on a 5 star scale. From these ratings I assigned a Critical Rating Multiplier to each album ranging from 0% to 10%.

So now our formula has factored in critical acclaim making the end result more reliable.

Ratings Value = Sales Value X Rating Multiplier

The final portion of the formula is the Grammy Award Value and it simply looks at how many Grammy Awards each album has won. Our formula already has the voice of the people (Sales Value) and the voice of the critics (Critical Rating Value) so the only missing component is the acclaim each album holds among it's peers. The Grammys are an industry specific award and are the best reflection we have of how the music business itself feels about an album. I would agree that this is the least important of the components in our formula, and as such each Grammy award adds only a .5% bonus. So an album that wins 4 Grammys would receive an extra 2% to it's value. This in my estimation is a fair weighting to give for a Grammy award.

So now I give you The Top 20 Albums of All Time based purely on the analysis provided above and devoid of any personal opinion. If you would like to see the complete analysis you can download the Microsoft Excel version here: (Top Album Analysis.xls).

20. Faith - George Michael

19. Appetite For Destruction - Guns N' Roses

18. Purple Rain - Prince

17. Houses Of The Holy - Led Zeppelin

16. Born In The U.S.A. - Bruce Springsteen

15. Nevermind - Nirvana

14. Van Halen - Van Halen

13. Rumours - Fleetwood Mac

12. The Wall - Pink Floyd

11. The Joshua Tree - U2

10. Metallica - Metallica

9. Led Zeppelin - Led Zeppelin

8. Hotel California - Eagles

7. The White Album - The Beatles

6. Led Zeppelin IV - Led Zeppelin

5. Abbey Road - The Beatles

4. Physical Graffiti - Led Zeppelin

3. Thriller - Michael Jackson

2. Dark Side Of The Moon - Pink Floyd

1. Songs In The Key Of Life - Stevie Wonder

 

8996 Comments

121. Yahoo! Music User -
I would've made DSOTM #1, but I'm happy with it being #2. I'm just glad that finally somebody with good taste of music made much better selections.
Again, Dark Side should be #1...There isn't anything like it and there will never be.

122. Chico -
#2 should be dark side of the moone and #1 is sgt. peppers......Bob Marley's Legend should be top ten.
i don't care what the criteria is.
peppers broke the limits and what the h*ll, no jimi hendrix are you experienced?
this is sick.

123. Yahoo! Music User -
All are ok except the #1. Stevie Wonder? Come on!!

124. Chico -
screw acdc, ALL of their songs sound the same

125. Tracy K -
Hellooo...you guys ever hear of a little band called Queen?

126. Chico -
good point tracy

127. DWS -
No Dylan? This list is bogus

128. Chico -
no doors?

129. Yahoo! Music User -
The formula skews results to older albums. An album that came out before the CD era probably had a fair number of 'cd replacement' purchases, where people were buying a new 'format', rather than a new album. Also, these would have a much lower volume of CDs produced, thus used CD pricing would be lower. Throwing in the billboard catalog album sales may help here, but it too would still favor older albums.

Also, song charting may also be considered. An album with extemely high single sales or airplay may actually have some of its album sales canabalized by single sales. This is even more true today, with song-centric online sales.

By a similar token, excluding greatest hits albums may unjustly penalize albums that had components included in greatest hits or live albums. (If there was no live album, they would have had to buy one, otherwise it was not required.

Finally, the cutoff of only 10 million selling albums may have left out some truly great albums below the mark. After all, the number 1 album on the list barely made the initial cut. Could there be other great albums just below it that would have ranked higher?

130. CarmenO -
Some of those albums were not my favorites. So what? At least the criteria was valid and I can't really say that any was bad(unlike a previous list by Radish guy-boy does he have bad taste!). Now as to some you that posted, you'll know who you are once you get a life and learn to read, re-read the article and then your stupid comments and you'll understand why they are stupid.

131. Yvette Sandoval -
When it comes to pop music that still sounds 'modern', no one will beat Michael Jackson and George Michael.. These two are some of the best singers in the world and their two albums on the list are classic and unforgettable..

132. Chico -
a night at the opera should be there

133. Greg -
Just a thought from a 40 year old guy who has listened to everything from the Beatles to GNR to Staind; 50 years from now these will still be the top albums because we don't buy albums anymore, i.e. a collection of songs. We download a song, sometimes for free and sometimes not. So, these "albums" will always be the greatest of all time.

134. JarohnJ -
THIS IS BIASED! ITS LIKE 5 LED ZEPPLIN ALBUMS ON HERE. U CANT REALLY SAY WHICH WERE THE BEST. IT DEPENDS ON WHAT TYPE OF MUSIC U LIKE.

135. Yahoo! Music User -
Faith - George Michael give me a break I agree with the AC/DC fans Back in Black should be in the list!! Run the numbers again.

136. people believe the hype! -
It is all good albums because the artists that are today cannot come close to one of the classic albums! I agree with stevie wonder being number one.

137. Yvette Sandoval -
I'm surprised "The Bodyguard" soundtrack is not on this list; I thought it had sold like crrrazy!

138. Yahoo! Music User -
led zeppelin is amazing and where is ac/dc?

139. DWS -
No Dylan? This list is bogus, no matter how he figured it. he skipped a page or two of numbers somewhere along the way. Dylan ranks up there in sales along with Beatles, Led Zeppelin, et al.

140. SkateBoi C -
Hold up... Who put this list together, because you are missing a lot of great album. Most of the groups on this list are dead, in rehab or no longer record. Granted they are really good albums but others deserve to be on this list. Such classics as Whitney Houston's "Whitney" album, "Rapture" by Anita Baker, "Toni Braxton" & Secrets by Toni Braxton, "All Eyez on Me" by 2Pac, "Ready to Die" by Biggie, "Music Box" by Mariah Carey, "Q's Juke Joint" by Quincy Jones", "My Life" by Mary J Blige, "Control" by Janet Jackson, "Breathless" by Kenny G and "Bedtime Stories" by Madonna. Those are just a few. This is just my opinion.
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