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The Top 20 Albums of All Time (For Real)

Posted Mon Jul 28, 2008 3:21pm PDT by Robert of the Radish in The Y! Music Playlist Blog

I completely understand the frustration of "best of lists", and I can assure you that I read hundreds of comments here on the Yahoo Music blogs whenever we post one. Many times our "best album" lists generate thousands of comments. And although many of the remarks are ridiculous, many are valid in a subjective sort of way.

For this playlist I wanted to find the true top 20 albums once and for all, but to do this I needed to clear my mind of all opinion and approach it as a science. My own personal taste did not influence this list in any way. In fact, I would have made many different choices, but the time I put into collecting the data and crunching the numbers leaves no doubt in my mind that this is the most accurate top 20 album list in existence.

To begin with I had to set the parameters, and I have set them as follows:

1. The list is based on the American market - I did this only because I had mounds of detailed data on the American music market at hand- to include the whole world or even Europe would increase the complexity of the analysis greatly - So this is really the "Top 20 Albums of All Time (To Americans)"

2. "Greatest Hits" albums and live albums were not eligible. The idea here was to identify the very best true albums, not compilations that cherry pick the best songs from an artist's career.

3. The following mathematical formula was used:

"Album Staying Power Value + Sales Value + Critical Rating Value + Grammy Award Value"

Now if you wish to argue, I welcome intelligent comment on how to hone the formula further, but please try to control the passionate fan-speak that drives so many of the comments. Remember, the idea is to completely remove your personal opinion from the process.

To offer a bit more detail on the components of the formula:

The initial group of albums selected was based solely on sales. Please know that I believe sales alone are probably the worst measure we have of an album's quality and I will speak to how I addressed this problem in a few. But as a starting point sales made the most sense. Sales are by no means the only measure of a "great album", but without big sales an album doesn't have much footing on which to claim the moniker "greatest". A vote with a dollar is a much stronger indicator than any other.

I looked at the biggest selling albums of all time in America based on actual RIAA data - this produced 71 non-Greatest Hits/Live albums that have all sold over 10 million units. Any of these that sold more than 10 million units received a 1% Sales Multiplier for every 1 million units sold over 10 million.

Sales Value = Sales Multiplier X Staying Power Value

Next, I determined what the Staying Power Value (SPV) was of all 71 albums. To determine Staying Power Value I looked at used CD sales data to determine how well each album's value has held up over time. For example, in the secondary market you can expect to pay around $9.50 for a copy of Rumours by Fleetwood Mac, but you would only pay $1.38 for a copy of Cracked Rear View by Hootie and The Blowfish. The Staying Power Value is important because it shows what the current value of the album is in the marketplace. So it's a good reflection of supply and demand. Rumours sold 19 million copies and Cracked Rear View sold 16 million. Rumours gets more points for selling more units, but even more important than the higher overall sales figures is that people want to hold onto their Fleetwood Mac CD, but don't mind parting with their Hootie CD. SPV captures this. In simple terms, Staying Power Value reflects current supply and demand for each album. *Please note that for double albums we reduced the SPV to align with a standard-length album.

So if we take the previously mentioned SPV of Fleetwood Mac's Rumours album and multiply it by that album's Sales Multiplier of 9% (1% for each million sold over 10 million) we get $10.38. But this only shows us how much people still desire the album + how many have sold at retail.

The next part of the formula takes into account critical acclaim.

I would agree with anyone who says a critical review means nothing, but when you start to see a pattern among the critics the data becomes much more reliable. If ten out of ten reviewers give an album 5 stars chances are good that the album is a winner. Basically the more reviews you average the more reliable the rating.

For the Critical Rating Value I looked at multiple reviews for each album from a diverse cross section of music magazines, newspapers and music review websites to come up with the average review number for each based on a 5 star scale. From these ratings I assigned a Critical Rating Multiplier to each album ranging from 0% to 10%.

So now our formula has factored in critical acclaim making the end result more reliable.

Ratings Value = Sales Value X Rating Multiplier

The final portion of the formula is the Grammy Award Value and it simply looks at how many Grammy Awards each album has won. Our formula already has the voice of the people (Sales Value) and the voice of the critics (Critical Rating Value) so the only missing component is the acclaim each album holds among it's peers. The Grammys are an industry specific award and are the best reflection we have of how the music business itself feels about an album. I would agree that this is the least important of the components in our formula, and as such each Grammy award adds only a .5% bonus. So an album that wins 4 Grammys would receive an extra 2% to it's value. This in my estimation is a fair weighting to give for a Grammy award.

So now I give you The Top 20 Albums of All Time based purely on the analysis provided above and devoid of any personal opinion. If you would like to see the complete analysis you can download the Microsoft Excel version here: (Top Album Analysis.xls).

20. Faith - George Michael

19. Appetite For Destruction - Guns N' Roses

18. Purple Rain - Prince

17. Houses Of The Holy - Led Zeppelin

16. Born In The U.S.A. - Bruce Springsteen

15. Nevermind - Nirvana

14. Van Halen - Van Halen

13. Rumours - Fleetwood Mac

12. The Wall - Pink Floyd

11. The Joshua Tree - U2

10. Metallica - Metallica

9. Led Zeppelin - Led Zeppelin

8. Hotel California - Eagles

7. The White Album - The Beatles

6. Led Zeppelin IV - Led Zeppelin

5. Abbey Road - The Beatles

4. Physical Graffiti - Led Zeppelin

3. Thriller - Michael Jackson

2. Dark Side Of The Moon - Pink Floyd

1. Songs In The Key Of Life - Stevie Wonder

 

8997 Comments

141. Quick, JQ, Juice -
'Thriller' out sold all, won more Grammys than any other, and did one other thing...created a whole new genre of music. Plus, it was re-released this year, and cost more than $13.49, and if you found a vinyl, the store would be asking for more than that.

142. Big Orange -
One weakness I do see in this system is that in the 70s, 80s and 90s people were buying a lot more albums than ever before. It was the middle to late 60s when people really started moving from '45's to albums. This would make the list favor albums from the late 60s to the 90s when the baby boomers stopped being such an influence on album sales. But people, it's just a list not the presidential election.

143. Tommy C -
Hey at least it was Stevie and not Celine Dion

144. Robin -
7. Is there any way
6. to filter out
5. the comments made here
4. by those who have not
3. operated
2. a cassette player
1. or turntable?

(or those who don't read long sentences)

145. Zen Master -
no way in the world that 'dark side of the moon' doesn't end up as number 1. that was truly the greatest album of all time...

146. Chris -
Its Lynyrd Skynyrd ...Why don't you get it right ..Thanx!!!

147. Hank -
i must be like the only person that doesnt listen to stevie wonder. maybe i'll go get his album. haha yeah right

148. Mil Bil -
wow thats like hippie wonderland right there, the best 2 that i saw was hotel cailfornia and thiriller, these r all from like my parents hay day but thats kool

149. Johnny -
Given that this is a more scientific poll, I have to say that it's actually a pretty good list. Even if this list was based on personal opinion, the only album I wouldn't agree with being on it is the George Michael album. The rest are all classics and should be considered some of the best of all time.

150. Yahoo! Music User -
Frampton Comes Alive didn't make it?

151. Yahoo! Music User -
I was expecting Lil' Wayne! lol

152. AdamJ -
Darn straight DSOTM is the real #1! this columnist should've also added how many references to pop culture each album had. DSOTM spawned so many parodies off its cover, name, music. it even spawned a freakin' laser light show!

if you input that into the equation, then DSOTM is #1.

I'm kind of sad though to see pink floyd's The Wall in here. well, I'm one of the biggest Pink Floyd fans out there and I really don't care to much for it. back in black by ac/dc! where's that?

153. Yahoo! Music User -
What no Boston, no Who Come on people

154. Akin W -
Didn't Thriller Win 8 Grammys.

Which Would Certainly Put Ot Over The Top

155. citrusmac92 -
for the record thriller had 7 grammys not 4 back in 84

156. Nicole W -
no queen??

what about a night at the opera man!!

157. clarence n -
Those of you who put down Stevie Wonder have obviously never taken the time to listen to him because your narrow musical taste won't allow you to. He has musical talent on his own, that rivals many of the groups on this list just on his ability alone. Put your tastes and musical predjudice aside and examine for yourself why it's number 1 on the list.

158. Chico -
man, all i am simply saying is Sgt. Peppers, Bob Marley Legend?
why are they not on this list? and one more thing, tracy was right, no queen, come on.
a night at the opera?
one more thought....no Police....

159. parent -
drop "Faith" for Jimi Hendrix's ELECTRIC LADYLAND. Then I'll give this list the greenlight.

160. Jasmine C -
this is his top 20 list i don't believe this is based off of sales or any of the sort; if i was then Michael Jackson would be like number 1 or 2 and where is Elvis on this list? this guy just needs to open his horizons to all music cause true creativity and artistry comes in all genres of music including rap steve(get out of the box)
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